Wolfcastle Posted Tuesday at 16:15 Share Posted Tuesday at 16:15 Clubs effectively lose points following these rules as well as not following them. Could probably calculate the risk if they ever get down what deduction you'd get for what "over spend" you commit which is why it'll remain random. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted Tuesday at 16:19 Share Posted Tuesday at 16:19 22 hours ago, Mike said: Solution: sign Lee Kang In if he can play on the right. Kubo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted Tuesday at 17:13 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:13 5 hours ago, Jackie Broon said: It'll be Leicester. According to Borsen it's probably Leicester and possibly Chelsea, who have to curve a gap of 150 million according to him on Talksport Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted Tuesday at 17:17 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:17 1 hour ago, Wolfcastle said: Clubs effectively lose points following these rules as well as not following them. Could probably calculate the risk if they ever get down what deduction you'd get for what "over spend" you commit which is why it'll remain random. The main issue is the whole process is so opaque. A club could do something they anticipate will be a four point deduction and it could end up being eight. You'd have to know you're signing up for a legal battle and, fair or not, it'd be much higher profile if it was Saudi led Newcastle as opposed to Bournemouth or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted Tuesday at 17:22 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:22 8 minutes ago, et tu brute said: According to Borsen it's probably Leicester and possibly Chelsea, who have to curve a gap of 150 million according to him on Talksport So just Leicester then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted Tuesday at 17:23 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:23 (edited) 9 minutes ago, et tu brute said: According to Borsen it's probably Leicester and possibly Chelsea, who have to curve a gap of 150 million according to him on Talksport So just Leicester then edit: ffs TRon Edited Tuesday at 17:23 by Unbelievable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubteam Posted Tuesday at 17:26 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:26 I'm surprised the football agents aren't challenging the legality of psr by now, it's must be costing them a fortune with the lack of transfer activity. Hopefully the premier league realise how damaging this is to the brand before it's too late. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted Tuesday at 17:26 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:26 3 minutes ago, Unbelievable said: So just Leicester then edit: ffs TRon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted Tuesday at 17:28 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:28 1 hour ago, mighty__mag said: Kubo 50m release clause as well... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted Tuesday at 17:34 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:34 Would love it if Chelsea were fucked, but yeah can’t see it. Fair… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted Tuesday at 17:36 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:36 12 minutes ago, Unbelievable said: So just Leicester then edit: ffs TRon Tbf, if it's just Leicester and Chelsea, they might just decide to punish Leicester twice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted Tuesday at 18:34 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:34 1 hour ago, Mike said: 50m release clause as well... Let's do it, we'd claw loads back in Japanese hysteria Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted Tuesday at 18:35 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:35 Just now, mighty__mag said: Let's do it, we'd claw loads back in Japanese hysteria @Beren Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted Tuesday at 18:52 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:52 Btw, that wasn't any historic reference, Purley they'd go wild for any Japanese hero playing in the Premier League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted Tuesday at 18:58 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:58 23 minutes ago, Mike said: @Beren PSR prevents me from spunking money up the wall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted Tuesday at 19:01 Share Posted Tuesday at 19:01 2 minutes ago, Beren said: PSR prevents me from spunking money up the wall. PSR just needs you to take it up the arse a bit before you can let it go. Be a team player you selfish fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted yesterday at 01:48 Share Posted yesterday at 01:48 8 hours ago, timeEd32 said: The main issue is the whole process is so opaque. A club could do something they anticipate will be a four point deduction and it could end up being eight. You'd have to know you're signing up for a legal battle and, fair or not, it'd be much higher profile if it was Saudi led Newcastle as opposed to Bournemouth or something. Exactly. This is why the rules and punishment were written in such an opaque way and also why Evertons initial punishment was so severe. It was a clear message to upstarts such as ourselves to not even think about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted yesterday at 01:57 Share Posted yesterday at 01:57 9 hours ago, Wolfcastle said: Clubs effectively lose points following these rules as well as not following them. Could probably calculate the risk if they ever get down what deduction you'd get for what "over spend" you commit which is why it'll remain random. Also an issue would be if you breach heavily and say only got 4 points. The likelyhood is then you would obviously keep breaching again and again until you sold a high value player to make up the deficit. So then you would get regular points deductions. And as others have said, the punishments are so unclear, who knows if each additional points deduction doesn't get more and more severe each time. It's all fucked really and I guess it could be argued we are doing it the right way in terms of trying to keep hold of our best players and build slowly. Rather than sell a top star and try to rebuild quicker. But for this method to be more effective, we have to try and flog the dead wood or surplus high earners better than we have and replace with cheaper and younger talent. Easier said than done. Also need more sponsors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted yesterday at 05:18 Share Posted yesterday at 05:18 Sounds like Man Utd are fairly close to the limit, no wonder Brexit Jim is turning off lights and putting ticket prices up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagCA Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago Swiss Ramble predicts we will (just) be fine for PSR this time around. He predicts a +7m on allowable losses Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 4 hours ago, MagCA said: Swiss Ramble predicts we will (just) be fine for PSR this time around. He predicts a +7m on allowable losses Got a link, cannot find it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagCA Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, Hudson said: Got a link, cannot find it https://swissramble.substack.com/p/which-clubs-are-restricted-by-psr-bde Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago Part of the problem is that clubs can only project a portion of their income - ST sales are locked in; commercial deals are usually clear; basic TV rights are confirmed in advance of the season. Much of the income of football-club is performance-based, and no matter how much is spent there is no guarantees offered on that front (see United, Manchester). Prize money for league position; money for TV appearances (less likely if you’re mediocre); advancing in Europe and the domestic cups. The sport isn’t set up well for clubs to be able to confidently project future income and use those projections to determine how much they can spend. Underperforming on the pitch is traditionally punished in the usual sporting way - failure, relegation etc. These rules double-down on failure. Owners who are already risk-averse just become even more risk-averse - resulting in increasingly turgid ‘product’. None of that matters, though. The bottom line is what counts. Isn’t modern football fun? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dokko Posted 38 minutes ago Share Posted 38 minutes ago 17 minutes ago, The Prophet said: All started with them winning the title. Shocked the establishment to the core, and they decided it wasn't allowed to happen again. At any cost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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