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The premier league will be all billy big bollox now saying look the rules work.  Everyone is complying, the rules are great, all hail the rules.

 

Ignoring, car parks, hotels, women's teams, teams selling their youth players, Man Utd playing by different rules, it being impossible to break into the top 4/6 consistently.

 

It would actually have been better for a couple teams to have failed so the game was undermined by these rules putting more pressure on them.

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  On 14/01/2025 at 11:21, KetsbaiaIsBald said:

The premier league will be all billy big bollox now saying look the rules work.  Everyone is complying, the rules are great, all hail the rules.

 

Ignoring, car parks, hotels, women's teams, teams selling their youth players, Man Utd playing by different rules, it being impossible to break into the top 4/6 consistently.

 

It would actually have been better for a couple teams to have failed so the game was undermined by these rules putting more pressure on them.

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The PL won't care as their remit is to make sure the cartel clubs are happy, as they are the big money spinners for the PL, and that is the bottom line.

 

The only threat to FFP that I can see is the stagnant transfer market it has created. Eventually that will mean less money being spent and less money coming in. Does that trickle down to lower wages eventually? It will make players over 27 worth a lot less for sure as clubs won't want to spend big fees which they can't recoup.

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  On 14/01/2025 at 10:13, Keegans Export said:

The cutoff is June, these charges would have been for breaches between 1st July 2023 and 30th June 2024.

 

We started the 24/25 period 1st July 2024

 

Edit - yes as @MagCA says its a three year period but each new year starts on 1st July.

 

 

 

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New "Squad Cost Ratio" rules kick in on July 1st, 85% revenue (70% teams in Europe), that's an annual measure - the three year "windows" stop at this point   

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  On 14/01/2025 at 13:42, Mag3.14 said:

 

New "Squad Cost Ratio" rules kick in on July 1st, 85% revenue (70% teams in Europe), that's an annual measure - the three year "windows" stop at this point   

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3 year windows run in conjunction with it.

 

 

Edited by Stifler

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  On 14/01/2025 at 11:28, Pixelphish said:

I forgot CFC sold the Womens team to themselves. Can't hate it when they're allowed to get away with it. Apparently its not a related party transaction when its literally yourself.

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I am pretty sure the sale was between 150-175m (could be wrong) - If it was that, how do you value it? We were sold for just over 300m

 

Secondly - why is the 3 year loss still 105m? Surely it’s way above that in line with inflation? It will only benefit those with greater revenue.

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Obviously I'm biased cos I want us to spend loads of cash, but I think it's harsh on Arsenal been held back with the Jesus injury and not been able to replace him.

 

..........then I think " fuck it, they voted for these stupid fucking rules"

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  On 14/01/2025 at 17:15, Ben said:

Obviously I'm biased cos I want us to spend loads of cash, but I think it's harsh on Arsenal been held back with the Jesus injury and not been able to replace him.

 

..........then I think " fuck it, they voted for these stupid fucking rules"

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Eh they are just spending £51m on a midfielder for the summer. They could replace Jesus if they want 

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  On 14/01/2025 at 17:11, Mikky said:


I am pretty sure the sale was between 150-175m (could be wrong) - If it was that, how do you value it? We were sold for just over 300m

 

Secondly - why is the 3 year loss still 105m? Surely it’s way above that in line with inflation? It will only benefit those with greater revenue.

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Villa raised a vote for it to be increased, only 2 clubs voted for it, 3 abstained and 15 against it

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  On 14/01/2025 at 17:56, RodneyCisse said:

Problem for Arsenal, no strikers are available who’d improve them within their budget.

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I think Vlahovic is a good option as is Sesko - do you mean their budget is pretty low? 
 

With both you are looking at 40m (Vlahovic - some issues with his contract) and 50-60m for Sesko

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  On 14/01/2025 at 18:03, Geordie Ahmed said:

 

Villa raised a vote for it to be increased, only 2 clubs voted for it, 3 abstained and 15 against it

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I sometimes question the wisdom of these clubs but that being said to keep it at 105m is totally unreasonable and like I said, benefits a dozen teams

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  On 14/01/2025 at 18:07, Mikky said:


I sometimes question the wisdom of these clubs but that being said to keep it at 105m is totally unreasonable and like I said, benefits a dozen teams

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Then again, fans can’t kick off with their owners if they aren’t spending a load of cash … ‘not our fault 🤷🏻‍♂️ ‘ 

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  On 14/01/2025 at 18:05, Mikky said:


I think Vlahovic is a good option as is Sesko - do you mean their budget is pretty low? 
 

With both you are looking at 40m (Vlahovic - some issues with his contract) and 50-60m for Sesko

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Haven’t they had a loan bid rejected for him?

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