Financial Fair Play / Profit & Sustainability

[Maggies]

5 minutes ago, madras said:

Can someone explain ? 

Villa are owned in 1/3s by Edens, Sawiri and one other firm.
 

For one of those owners to purchase the women’s team from Villa, then it’ll need to for enough money.

 

Its a bit like Reuben’s buying our women’s team, but would need to pay enough that PIF feel it’s worth.

 

 

Edited 12 hours ago by Maggies

[Ben]

So i take it no club is under threat like this time last year, unless there is a mad scramble tomorrow 

[The College Dropout]

45 minutes ago, Ben said:

So i take it no club is under threat like this time last year, unless there is a mad scramble tomorrow 

Doesn’t look like it does it?

 

This time last year most of the panic deals were done an and just a few were being concluded like ours. 
 

‘Villa’s gambled backfired’, ‘they are taking crazy risks’

 

 

If there’s a will there’s a way. Except at Newcastle. Then there’s no way.  

[Shearergol]

7 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Doesn’t look like it does it?

 

This time last year most of the panic deals were done an and just a few were being concluded like ours. 
 

‘Villa’s gambled backfired’, ‘they are taking crazy risks’

 

 

If there’s a will there’s a way. Except at Newcastle. Then there’s no way.  

Last time I looked we qualified for the champions league and villa didn’t.

 

Keep doubling down on your crazy argument though. 

[The Prophet]

The new CEO appointment will have more of an impact on out approach to PSR as much as anything. Eales clearly prefers to play things safe.

[SUPERTOON]

1 hour ago, Ben said:

So i take it no club is under threat like this time last year, unless there is a mad scramble tomorrow 

Villa are at risk. 

[The College Dropout]

34 minutes ago, Shearergol said:

Last time I looked we qualified for the champions league and villa didn’t.

 

Keep doubling down on your crazy argument though. 

They gambled and competed - ultimately fell short but they are not going to fall foul of FFP. So no worse than where they started.  Have a UEFA Cup spot they wouldn’t have if they didn’t gamble. A
 

When we qualified for the CL first time, struggled to compete in the league and in the CL - didn’t qualify for Europe and ended up selling our 2 brightest young players for less then their current market value.  
 

I think overall Howe has outperformed Emery. Can maybe argue Nickson and co. have outperformed Monchi. But the owners, money men at Villa are well ahead. They are managing what is less resources, better than us. 
 

 

There’s even a fan conspiracy that we won’t ever play funny PSR games (although we definitely already have - and done it badly) because of a gentleman’s agreement with the PL that allowed PIF to buy the club. People believe that because we are so stationary when it comes to circumventing PSR. 

[Mikky]

26 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Villa are at risk. 

They are/have supposedly sold their women’s team to themselves 

[gdm]

How the fuck has football come to this? 

[gdm]

Can the rueben’s not sell property to Newcastle for cheap then Newcastle hawk it PIF for £100m

 

they’ll close the loophole fast enough if that happens 

[gbandit]

Just set the sport on fire and start again

[Magpie Mover]

I'm not sure why at this point, PIF don't  just blow the whole thing apart, buy whoever they want, pay the wages required and see what the premier league do. Make it political, whisper that it's anti saudi/arab and dare Masters/UK government to fine, relegate, sanction or penalise the Saudi owned NUFC. Speak with Villa, Forest and other clubs in a similar situation to us and get them to do the same thing.

 

Alternatively we continue to struggle to compete with the six existing clubs whose revenue is off the charts compared to us and in some cases always will be.

[gbandit]

I imagine it’s because we’d easily become the most hated club, the cartel already want to destroy us and they’d lobby the governing bodies to hand out the harshest punishment in the history of football. We’d probably go down minimum three leagues and get transfer bans for years as well. It would be a dream scenario for the cartel if we broke the rules 

[HawK]

Obvious answer to most of this is we're not a vanity project but just an investment 

[ikri]

22 minutes ago, gdm said:

Can the rueben’s not sell property to Newcastle for cheap then Newcastle hawk it PIF for £100m

 

they’ll close the loophole fast enough if that happens 

 

The loophole we should be exploiting would be for the club to purchase any property that the Ruebens are looking at & then immediately sell it on to them.  The initial outlay wouldn't count against PSR but the income would.

[TRon]

28 minutes ago, gbandit said:

I imagine it’s because we’d easily become the most hated club, the cartel already want to destroy us and they’d lobby the governing bodies to hand out the harshest punishment in the history of football. We’d probably go down minimum three leagues and get transfer bans for years as well. It would be a dream scenario for the cartel if we broke the rules 

 

It's not something you can put in writing, but it should be fairly obvious to most by now that the law is equal, but it's more equal for some than others. 

[The College Dropout]

The precedent to hack PSR is there. 

[Turnbull2000]

Fuck me Chelsea's shenanigans are making me angry. And if Villa are selling their women's team to keep them going next season, it's going to be exceptionally hard to get top 5 again. Unless PIF attempt to blow up these protectionist rules, I don't see how we can ever get genuinely level with the beakaway cartel.

[David Edgar]

6 hours ago, astraguy said:

Just seen this on villa talk,they have to Tuesday

 

 

 

Oh no Villa, I guess the price will have to go up? They must be gutted.

[HayDen Traces]

5 hours ago, David Edgar said:

 

Oh no Villa, I guess the price will have to go up? They must be gutted.

Haha its all so morally bankrupt.

[jack j]

Nice one pif lads

[Nucasol]

4 minutes ago, jack j said:

Nice one pif lads

Jacobs is such a Todd gobbler.

 

[Fenham Mag]

It honestly feels like we’re caught up in one of the most blatant scandals in football, yet somehow it’s all completely legal.
 

What’s unfolding, selling women’s teams, selling hotels etc would make those implicated in Calciopoli blush!
 

I really hope fan groups can come together and take a stand. We saw with the Super League that fan power can make a real difference.

[The College Dropout]

11 minutes ago, Fenham Mag said:

It honestly feels like we’re caught up in one of the most blatant scandals in football, yet somehow it’s all completely legal.
 

What’s unfolding, selling women’s teams, selling hotels etc would make those implicated in Calciopoli blush!
 

I really hope fan groups can come together and take a stand. We saw with the Super League that fan power can make a real difference.

Nobody else really cares. 
 

Chelsea and Villa are spending lots of money. Losing lots of money year on year.  And neither team will win the league. 

[Myleftboot]

I get the feeling Richard Masters said to us look I’ll let the takeover go through as long as you don’t take the piss.