Match Atmosphere

[Superior Acuña]

Did the novelty of the CL really wear off so quickly?

 

My dad was in his usual Gallowgate seat and said it was flat there too. Behind the goal, 1/3 up, more to west side.

 

 

Edited October 25, 2023 by Superior Acuña

[RobS]

I was in the Leazes tonight and that fucking drum omg - literally gave my daughter a headache. Felt like every time people got a song going they would start a new drum beat and just drown out the home fans. Was a fucking shite night all round tbf

[Interpolic]

Just now, The Prophet said:

Unfortunately I haven't been able to make it back to the promised land yet, but generally speaking there was always much more moaning, groaning and getting stuck into players rather than actual support even back when I attended.

 

I genuinely think there's far, far less of that these days versus the Robson era etc but then again we've been very spoiled lately. It was creeping in a bit today which is disappointing when we were always in the game and didn't remotely show ourselves up or owt. 

 

I think people have a habit of getting ahead of themselves and many will have turned up tonight expecting us to steamroll Dortmund, which is daft. 

[wormy]

1 minute ago, nemtizz said:

English atmospheres are far too reactionary, whereas the Germs sing throughout, with zero reactions to scoring. Shouldn’t always been on the team to ignite some noise. This is why singing and standing sections are so important. Folk laugh at Palace and Arsenal’s attempt at a solution but at least they’re trying. 

 

Yup. Unsurprisingly a few posts tonight comparing to the PSG game (and I don't mean that in a bad way), but as I think someone else put it, that was pure lightning in a bottle. I think the early goal effectively sent our fans in to a state of delirium that then carried both fans and the players through. If the first half went the same way as tonight I wouldn't be surprised to have seen the atmosphere gradually fall flat in a similar way.

[Holloway]

friend of mine has said it was the worst big game atmosphere she has been at, couldn't believe how shite it was

[Jonas]

37 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Yep.  The PSV, Dynamo Kiev and Feyenoord home games in particular stand out as being as flat as a witch’s tit.  Feyenoord was the nadir for me - 10k empty seats and you could hear a pin drop.  

Pulled myself off a sick bed at 6.45 to get to that Feyenoord one. The queues outside, missed the anthem, suggest different clientele to normal would be in attendance which usually meant a drop in noise. It so often effects everyone else which is probably the killer. Definitely effected me being shy anyway but even the two regular quite rowdy blokes a few seats up were like cats amongst pigeons.

 

 

 

 

Edited October 25, 2023 by Jonas

[TheBrownBottle]

25 minutes ago, Jonas said:

Pulled myself off a sick bed at 6.45 to get to that Feyenoord one. The queues outside, missed the anthem, suggest different clientele to normal would be in attendance which usually meant a drop in noise. It so often effects everyone else which is probably the killer. Definitely effected me being shy anyway but even the two regular quite rowdy blokes a few seats up were like cats amongst pigeons.

 

 

 

 

 

Yep, there is usually significant changes to the attendees.  I used to sit with two mates, but we recognised / would crack on with loads around us.  We didn’t recognise anyone at that game - I still remember how oddly disconcerting that was  

[El Prontonise]

49 minutes ago, Interpolic said:

 

I genuinely think there's far, far less of that these days versus the Robson era etc but then again we've been very spoiled lately. It was creeping in a bit today which is disappointing when we were always in the game and didn't remotely show ourselves up or owt. 

 

I think people have a habit of getting ahead of themselves and many will have turned up tonight expecting us to steamroll Dortmund, which is daft. 

 

There was tons of moaning around me today.

 

Someone shouted to Wilson to get a grip FFS.

[TheBrownBottle]

53 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

A ridiculously high % of our ST holders are right miserable, moaning old bastards. That's the reason our atmosphere down at Wembley was so pathetic as it was 95% ST holders in our end.

Just my theory, but loads of them wouldn’t have continued to go when it was mostly on the day tickets prior to ‘92/93-ish.  They’d have drifted away, or would have been in the West Stand seats for the odd game.  I genuinely think there are a significant portion of them who don’t actually like going. 

[Wallsendmag]

6 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Just my theory, but loads of them wouldn’t have continued to go when it was mostly on the day tickets prior to ‘92/93-ish.  They’d have drifted away, or would have been in the West Stand seats for the odd game.  I genuinely think there are a significant portion of them who don’t actually like going. 

 

I work with a ST who openly admits he's not bothered about going. He goes because it gets him out the house and is the only chance he gets to meet up with the one mate he's got in the Labour Club.

 

He didn't bother getting the Cup package so wasn't there tonight so can't apportion any of the blame on him for the atmosphere tonight.

 

We first got our season tickets at the start of the 91/92 season and I remember that at the time we had around 4,000 season ticket holders. 

[Jab80]

Atmosphere was shite, but I think that drum ruined it! In my opinion that is why they do it!  They drown out the home support with the constant drumming. They never react to the match at all, just the constant noise! Good tackle, shot on target, good save! They never change the rhythm!! Why the fuck did we allow the drums is beyond me. Without the drum they are nowt!!

[Guest]

I mentioned it while watching their last game of the season, their atmosphere is manufactured. They were behind most of the game needing a win for the title, and it was just that constant drone throughout. There was no encouragement and egging the players on. There was no reaction to what was going on on the pitch..

 

Just their drums, flags, same sort of hum all the way through. 

[Wallsendmag]

We're going to watch Borussia Monchengladbach on Saturday and our seats are in the upper tier of the Nordkurve directly above the 16,000 capacity standing terrace they have.

 

No doubt that'll be similar to the constant drone of the Dortmund fans last night and no doubt they'll also have a drum.

[Kanj]

Didn’t the drum help the atmosphere v Paris?

[Nucasol]

Blaming the drum? There’s 49,000 people - I’m sure if they all stepped it up they’d be pretty certain to drown it out. PSG and Palace overinflated expectations, pin stuck in the balloon tonight when too many probably expected us just to rock up and do them.

[RS]

Most of the season ticket holders were happy to accept the Mike Ashley regime. That’s all you need to know. 

[bobbydazzla]

7 hours ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

That's the problem with randomly allocated seating. A friend of ours was put in the Strawberry Corner for tonight with her 10 year old son and 6 year old daughter. It was literally the last place she wanted to be!

Pretty much the same as what I’ve seen in there 

 

I’m wholeheartedly in favour of young kids being at the match, I’ve taken mine now and again 

 

But kids getting auto-allocated tickets in the only area of the ground where adults are allowed to stand and make a racket is ridiculous 

 

 

 

Edited October 26, 2023 by bobbydazzla

[bobbydazzla]

Received this email from the club this week after I highlighted frustrations with the ballot and ticketing system, feels like it relevant to match atmosphere discussion 

 

It was my understanding that ticketing workshops in the summer were invite only ? 

 

We are committed to ensuring supporters everywhere feel as connected to Newcastle United as possible. Going to the match is a unique experience that puts supporters at the heart of the action, and we work hard to ensure as many of our fans as possible have that opportunity by operating a fair ticketing system.

 

I appreciate that ticketing is a key discussion area for many fans, and we will take on board your feedback below as part of our ongoing engagement. Please do keep a look out for future workshops on topics that effect fans and may be important to you – it would be great if you could join us.

[NEEJ]

6 hours ago, El Prontonise said:

 

There was tons of moaning around me today.

 

Someone shouted to Wilson to get a grip FFS.

Some of our fans, man. "Useless" and "fucking dickhead" were just two of the insults thrown at Lascelles and Dummett as we approached half-time at 0-0 against Man City.

 

I honestly don't know why some people cling onto their tickets. It really doesn't seem like an enjoyable experience for them. They certainly don't contribute to any sort of positive atmosphere because they don't sing. 

[Nucasol]

5 minutes ago, NEEJ said:

Some of our fans, man. "Useless" and "fucking dickhead" were just two of the insults thrown at Lascelles and Dummett as we approached half-time at 0-0 against Man City.

 

I honestly don't know why some people cling onto their tickets. It really doesn't seem like an enjoyable experience for them. They certainly don't contribute to any sort of positive atmosphere because they don't sing. 

Maybe being a moaning cunt and getting to vent is their form of therapy?

[bobbydazzla]

10 minutes ago, NEEJ said:

Some of our fans, man. "Useless" and "fucking dickhead" were just two of the insults thrown at Lascelles and Dummett as we approached half-time at 0-0 against Man City.

 

I honestly don't know why some people cling onto their tickets. It really doesn't seem like an enjoyable experience for them. They certainly don't contribute to any sort of positive atmosphere because they don't sing. 

People don’t even need to sing, just getting behind the team with vocal encouragement would be enough.

 

But so many turn up week after week,year after year just to piss & moan even now we’ve got a side to be proud of 

 

You’ve got to ask what would make the miserable fuckers happy if they can’t take joy from our current situation 

 

 

Edited October 26, 2023 by bobbydazzla

[Elliottman]

I think the PSG game set expectations so high, in terms of the performance and the atmosphere, that a lot of people were probably expecting the same sort of night. Once Dortmund started getting a grip of the game, the crowd didn’t have the team to buzz off bar a couple of occasions - not saying that’s how it should be but that’s how it felt.

 

Atmosphere was better second half to be fair and if one of those chances go in, it would have took off id imagine. 

[ponsaelius]

Blaming the Dortmund fans for our own utterly shite atmosphere is pretty pathetic mind. 

 

Drum or no drum our lot turned up expecting to win and just pissed and moaned when we didn't. It was one of the most disappointing atmospheres I can ever remember considering the circumstances.

[Sima]

Even Saturday was like last night for the most of it.

 

Too many old cunts in the ground moaning, too many cunts expecting us to now steamroller teams and worst of all too many day-trippers who spend most of the time on their phones recording large sections of the game not really caring about the result.

[NSG]

6 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

Blaming the Dortmund fans for our own utterly shite atmosphere is pretty pathetic mind. 

 

Drum or no drum our lot turned up expecting to win and just pissed and moaned when we didn't. It was one of the most disappointing atmospheres I can ever remember considering the circumstances.

The crowd expecting us to win is a big part of it like. Hasn’t taken long for the entitlement to set in.