Unbelievable Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 24 minutes ago, BeloEmre said: Starting today against Atletico Madrid. Fantastic experience for the lad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 28 minutes ago, Erikse said: Kind of crazy how much we actually ended up needing him this season. If we knew what we know now, maybe we wouldn't send him on loan. Who would've thought. If we had a spot available for him in the PL squad that is, I guess maybe not? He's 19 so wouldn't take a squad space However sending him on loan was the right thing for his development Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, STM said: He plays in the Dutch league, unless he's absolutely tearing it up, it counts for very little. He's got potential, thats it. Probably still better than most players on our bench in the last 2 games? Look at our bench vs Chelsea. Hard to tell, but I wouldn't count on those players to be tearing it up in the Dutch league. My point was not that "Oh he's so good, he would do wonders." My point is that we have 3 GKs and some fairly unknown academy players on our bench. Which we understandably didn't anticipate when we sent him on loan. Edited November 28, 2023 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 (edited) Hauled off after 64 mins but Feyenoord’s best player according to FotMob with a 7.4 rating. Had 1 shot on target, 86% pass completion so it’s something I guess. Edited November 28, 2023 by Joelinton7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 3 hours ago, STM said: He plays in the Dutch league, unless he's absolutely tearing it up, it counts for very little. He's got potential, thats it. He’s shown promise in CL games too though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Playing a full season of men’s football at a good standard is better than being our 19th squad member for his development. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checko Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Obviously an injury crisis gives us a legit reason to recall him, but if we want to foster good relationships with clubs we loan to it will probably help if we try and allow them to keep the player all year if at all possible. Notwithstanding that he seems like he's getting some good game time and experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseman Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Don’t we have to wait until hanger to recall him anyway, by then we should be having players return and he will get less game time. Better to leave him there, and maintain that relationship with the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 4 hours ago, Joelinton7 said: Hauled off after 64 mins but Feyenoord’s best player according to FotMob with a 7.4 rating. Had 1 shot on target, 86% pass completion so it’s something I guess. And completed 8 out of 10 dribbles Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 https://x.com/fbwonderkids/status/1729622800174862608?s=20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 9 hours ago, timeEd32 said: He’s shown promise in CL games too though. Koul nearly scored a late equaliser, against, eventual World Cup winners, Argenfuckingtina in the last 16. Where's he now These kids need to learn their trade for consistency alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Looks handy this lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Rapid and quick feet. Looks very promising there; no mugs he's up against either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Goes both ways aswell there left back looked wary of him. Miggy pay attention lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 He looks very raw to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) Looks rapid and unpredictable. Having said that, he looks nowhere near ready to challenge for the 1st team next season based on what i've seen and read. Especially when considering that we will be looking at a proper key signing for our right hand side for next season at the latest. I'd let them have him for another season if possible. Best for him and the club imo. We will be looking to improve the 1st team in the next two windows hopefully aiming for high quality technical players. We don't want to go in to next season with Miggy only, with Murphy and Minteh as average backups. Edited December 1, 2023 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 47 minutes ago, Ikon said: Looks rapid and unpredictable. Having said that, he looks nowhere near ready to challenge for the 1st team next season based on what i've seen and read. Especially when considering that we will be looking at a proper key signing for our right hand side for next season at the latest. I'd let them have him for another season if possible. Best for him and the club imo. We will be looking to improve the 1st team in the next two windows hopefully aiming for high quality technical players. We don't want to go in to next season with Miggy only, with Murphy and Minteh as average backups. Average? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 6 hours ago, r0cafella said: He looks very raw to me. Said it before, he needs another season at Feyenoord - Dutch league is very good for developing wingers - Feyenoord are the right club for him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said: Average? I assumed a few might react at this a bit too literally. Don't get me wrong, i love Murphy and i think he has done a great job for us. However we can't forget that a few of our players have been better than, kind of "the sum of their parts" mainly because of Howe and how well we function as a team unit. I don't mind him as a squad player, absolutely not. However if we aim to improve and evolve for next season then i dont think he should be a starting player or 1st man backup to Miggy. Me using the word "average" is relatively speaking. I wouldn't call him a class player, especially when we consider what we are aiming for. The club and Eddie will be ruthless when needed, despite many players giving their all and doing a brilliant/class job relative to their ability. Edited December 1, 2023 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Groundhog63 said: Average? Genuinely interested to hear your thoughts. I'm not even sure we can call Minteh average (by our standards), have we seen enough of him? Murphy has been playing out of his skin since Howe's arrival in a bit-part role, even being subbed as a sub iirc. Let's not kid ourselves he's anything more than he currently is. Comes across as a great lad though and I hope he has a part to play for a little while longer. Edited December 1, 2023 by Dr.Spaceman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, Ikon said: I assumed a few might react at this a bit too literally. Don't get me wrong, i love Murphy and i think he has done a great job for us. However we can't forget that a few of our players have been better than, kind of "the sum of their parts" mainly because of Howe and how well we function as a team unit. I don't mind him as a squad player, absolutely not. However if we aim to improve and evolve for next season then i dont think he should be a starting player or 1st man backup to Miggy. Me using the word "average" is relatively speaking. I wouldn't call him a class player, especially when we consider what we are aiming for. I totally get, if we sign a RW "worldie" that Miggy would be the backup unless sold. Murphy isn't "average" in my mind given his performances under Howe. Average isn't playing really well in a top6 Premier League team, imho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said: I totally get, if we sign a RW "worldie" that Miggy would be the backup unless sold. Murphy isn't "average" in my mind given his performances under Howe. Average isn't playing really well in a top6 Premier League team, imho. Do you think another say top 8 club would sign him? Even if only for rotation? I doubt so. He has done remarkably well for us considering his ability. I still don't see him as a class player despite how much i like him. All this said, what is average, what is class, what is world class and so on Can't really say if anyone is wrong or right, same goes for me tbh. Edited December 1, 2023 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Ikon said: Do you think another say top 8 club would sign him? Even if only for rotation? I doubt so. He has done remarkably well for us considering his ability. I still don't see him as a class player despite how much i like him. All this said, what is average, what is class, what is world class and so on Can't really say if anyone is wrong or right, same goes for me tbh. Let them spend a few million on a squad player, we've got our's. He has flourished, as have they all under Eduardo, and I appreciate he's got a ceiling. Totally agree with @Dr.Spaceman He has been playing out of his skin. I just think absolutely none of our players can be described as "average" given what they've produced these last 2 years. Fuck me, down to the bear bones and humped Chelsea. Won in Paris The wife and I were talking after the game on Tuesday about what happens with that lot when the injured lads come back? Difficult shout. I'm dead loyal to Newcastle players, always have been. As a kid doing my imaginary Toon team I'd still pick half the current players even when, which was often, we were shite. I've never been more proud of a group of players than with these. Every time they need to drag something else from the depths of their very souls, they step up. From bairns to seniors. Nothing avarage about any of them. Edited December 1, 2023 by Groundhog63 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said: Let them spend a few million on a squad player, we've got our's. He has flourished, as have they all under Eduardo, and I appreciate he's got a ceiling. Totally agree with @Dr.Spaceman He has been playing out of his skin. I just think absolutely none of our players can be described as "average" given what they've produced these last 2 years. Fuck me, down to the bear bones and humped Chelsea. Won in Paris The wife and I were talking after the game on Tuesday about what happens with that lot when the injured lads come back? Difficult shout. I'm dead loyal to Newcastle players, always have been. As a kid doing my imaginary Toon team I'd still pick half the current players even when, which was often, we were shite. I've never been more proud of a group of players than with these. Every time they need to drag something else from the depths of their very souls, they step up. From bairns to seniors. Nothing avarage about any of them. With Miggy on the right, who probably was one of our better if not the best player in these games. I just feel like some players get slightly overhyped, same with Anderson to name one. Like Dr. Spaceman says, he's been playing out of his skin. Even Burn who i rate and love has been slightly overhyped at times. He has performed admirably and playing out of his skin and done a fantastic job and has been massive in our path back to being a very good side. I probably wouldn't call him average but i still think he's been slightly overhyped by some. Clear to see what a difference in quality overall there is between him and Livramento who's even playing out of position. Not one single team will pay 15-20m for Murphy as they know his true ability. This doesn't mean that he hasn't done very very well for us and is a good fit. The reason we have been doing so extremely well overall isn't because every single player is class ability wise. I hope he stays for next season and i think he will, for sure. But it's only a short amount of time until he's entirely replaced in the squad. Edited December 1, 2023 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 One thing I really like from those clips is that often when he receives the ball to feet he controls it with his weaker right foot and has already squared himself up to the defender before controlling it. This means he's ready to go outside or inside before he's even received the ball and it's the sort of thing you mostly see from elite wingers like ie Saka. What a perfect loan for him btw. Playing for the Dutch champions in the CL against teams like Atletico after only really having half a season in the Danish league. There will be loads of room for him to develop still. I'm sure Howe will have a look at him in pre-season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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