jigen Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 29 minutes ago, Gawalls said: So you’ve just ignored the signing of non prem players Bruno, isak and botman in that story. None of us have seen enough of Tonali yet so don’t close the score on him just yet. I’ve read in a few places that he’s looked amazing on the training ground and is raring to go. Your first signings were fantastic: the right players at the right prices. But then Howe started to make the market and you started to buy in the inflated PL market. If you had FFP problems, you never, never should spent 40m for Barnes, another LW very similar to Gordon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 Barnes was a luxury signing no doubt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 1 hour ago, The College Dropout said: We needed a RW more than we needed a LW. Lots of us said that at the time. ASM barely played yet we spent £40m for his replacement to sit on the bench. That doesn’t make sense. From a PSR and footballing perspective. Committing £60m for Barnes over the next 5 years was a bad idea considering we don’t have a viable RW option. We needed a CM. We didn’t need to spend £50m on a CM though. Ultimately the ends justify the means. If we managed to finish 4th and got to the CL QF we wouldn’t need to sell and we would say spending so much on the squad got us there. That didn’t happen. And with the transfers we made imo that was unlikely. So you have to say that was a misjudgment and poor decision making. the decision making in January seems to be even worse. Someone needed to go. 1) We did need a RW and still do. I have absolutely no idea what that has to do with PSR compliance. 2) Was Barnes signed to sit on the bench? Or did Gordon make the position his own during his somewhat unfortunate injury layoff? I don't think we'll ever get an answer to that. 3) We needed to elevate the quality of the first team to compete in the Champions League and players like Isak and Tonali cost top dollar. Fans are absolutely gasping for us to chuck huge fees at players like Marmadashvili, Maddison, Szaboszlai and Paqueta, while alternatives are frequently sneered at. The club are damned if they do and damned if they don't. 4) A potent mix of hindsight and conjecture does a lot of heavy lifting here. If we breach PSR, it's a failing from those running the club, but blaming individual transfers and factors outside of our control when we've had August 2023 along with January 2024 and June 2024 to line up sales seems a bit daft. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 1 minute ago, The Prophet said: 1) We did need a RW and still do. I have absolutely no idea what that has to do with PSR compliance. 2) Was Barnes signed to sit on the bench? Or did Gordon make the position his own during his somewhat unfortunate injury layoff? I don't think we'll ever get an answer to that. 3) We needed to elevate the quality of the first team to compete in the Champions League and players like Isak and Tonali cost top dollar. Fans are absolutely gasping for us to chuck huge fees at players like Marmadashvili, Maddison, Szaboszlai and Paqueta, while alternatives are frequently sneered at. The club are damned if they do and damned if they don't. 4) A potent mix of hindsight and conjecture does a lot of heavy lifting here. If we breach PSR, it's a failing from those running the club, but blaming individual transfers and factors outside of our control when we've had August 2023 along with January 2024 and June 2024 to line up sales seems a bit daft. Great post. Point 3 is particularly infuriating to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 Let it be. 🙏 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 See you later lad, wish you all the best (except against us) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 These fuckers will have him sold to Chelsea for over 80 million by the end of the season 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 ...and just like that everyone is gasping for him to go. Narrative masterclass from the club today. We can't be putting ourselves in this position again though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 If the club released the Gordon and Isak rumours to soften the blow of Minteh going, then it worked a treat on me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Would be good news. Need to move past all this noise now. Brentford just forked out £35 million for Archie Gray. £30 million for Minteh is decent. Need to sort this all out and start focusing on incomings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 If that's literally all there was to it then they really needn't have put me through the ringer. Everyone should have known full well why we signed Minteh in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 1 minute ago, The Prophet said: ...and just like that everyone is gasping for him to go. Narrative masterclass from the club today. We can't be putting ourselves in this position again though. I do feel a sporting director is necessary to help avoid a situation like this again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 Just now, The Prophet said: ...and just like that everyone is gasping for him to go. Narrative masterclass from the club today. We can't be putting ourselves in this position again though. IF that's what the club have done... I'm almost impressed. But yes, not a fucking ideal situation. I want nothing more than for this whole episode over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 7 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 Always liked Brighton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 On a serious note, it does in theory confirm he has a high ceiling and is probably ready to compete now. It’s a real shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 Just now, SUPERTOON said: I do feel a sporting director is necessary to help avoid a situation like this again. We had a sporting director, who one could argue, put us in this situation. I just think there is so much more to it. I think we all agree that this needs to be avoided at all costs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 1 minute ago, Yorkie said: If that's literally all there was to it then they really needn't have put me through the ringer. Everyone should have known full well why we signed Minteh in the first place. Think there were some people that really needed to reckon with the reality of the alternative scenarios Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: If the club released the Gordon and Isak rumours to soften the blow of Minteh going, then it worked a treat on me. It worked on everyone. The fucking arseholes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 Just now, Theregulars said: On a serious note, it does in theory confirm he has a high ceiling and is probably ready to compete now. It’s a real shame. Confirms nothing other than Brighton like him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 I've never felt so relieved to be manipulated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: I do feel a sporting director is necessary to help avoid a situation like this again. This is literally the exact situation a sporting director directs and achieves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunk Moreland Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 3 minutes ago, The Prophet said: ...and just like that everyone is gasping for him to go. Narrative masterclass from the club today. We can't be putting ourselves in this position again though. On the one hand it's kind of patronising from the club, but on the other when you see the clip of some of the takes (mostly elsewhere) about selling Minteh in the first place you realise it was probably needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 Just now, STM said: We had a sporting director, who one could argue, put us in this situation. I just think there is so much more to it. I think we all agree that this needs to be avoided at all costs. Yeah, there were murmurs the club weren't happy with his work towards selling players and it was a concern. The Muppet was too busy emailing back and forth with Ratcliffe and his gang to join Man Utd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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