Yankuba Minteh (now playing for Brighton & Hove Albion)

[The College Dropout]

49 minutes ago, et tu brute said:

I'm seeing quite a few whining about him being sold because he's scored two goals against non top level opposition in a friendly. Let's see what he does in the premier league first and then have the discussion. We were left with no choice and I don't think he would have been at the club this season anyway.

You can wish we were able to keep him but still understand and accept the reasons he was sold. 
I mean… that’s pretty straight forward right?

 

47 minutes ago, madras said:

I thought you thought the plan was to sell Bruno ?

His release clause expired with a week to go before the PSR deadline (genuinely good decision that). Towards that deadline when it became apparent/increasingly likely the release clause would not be activated - that’s when the Minteh rumours started picking up.  Likewise we started talking to Everton and Forest about dodgy dealings.  
 

so when it became apparent Bruno wouldn’t be sold, Minteh was as the only player besides the Crown Jewels that clubs actually wanted for some proper money so we had to sell him. Then we scrambled for the rest of the money which is why we ended up spending £20m for a failed £5m 29 year old GK and settled the Ashworth money by the FFP deadline. 
 

We should’ve been better prepared for Bruno’s release clause not being activated. 
 

I thought you were smart and could add basic events up. 

[madras]

Just now, The College Dropout said:

You can wish we were able to keep him but still understand and accept the reasons he was sold. 
I mean… that’s pretty straight forward right?

 

His release clause expired with a week to go before the PSR deadline (genuinely good decision that). Towards that deadline when it became apparent/increasingly likely the release clause would not be activated - that’s when the Minteh rumours started picking up.  Likewise we started talking to Everton and Forest about dodgy dealings.  
 

so when it became apparent Bruno wouldn’t be sold, Minteh was as the only player besides the Crown Jewels that clubs actually wanted for some proper money so we had to sell him. Then we scrambled for the rest of the money which is why we ended up spending £20m for a failed £5m 29 year old GK and settled the Ashworth money by the FFP deadline. 
 

We should’ve been better prepared for Bruno’s release clause not being activated. 
 

I thought you were smart and could add basic events up. 

Really ? Brunos clause didn't have to be activated, we could've sold him for 80mill before his deadline had we wanted.

 

I don't think there was "a plan" in that way. They knew they had certain assets they could cash in if needs be and while it was tight given the choice of losing Bruno, Gordon or Isak for less than optimal, or Minteh and Anderson going for what they did.......it's an easy choice for me.

[The College Dropout]

You think that Anderson sale was legit?

[Ginola]

I owe you a thanks, TCD. I was having trouble sleeping but I started reading your posts and that's sorted me out

[The College Dropout]

We clearly had our price for Bruno and the deadline was purposely lined up to help with the FFP deadline.  
 

And in any case - it doesn’t look like anyone bid £80m to test our resolve. 
 

The contract and clause was signed within this FFP window. 
 

BTW this is the scenario that gives the club the MOST credit.  I hope you realise that. We knew we would have a FFP shortfall in October when the contract was signed. And by January we knew it would likely be £50m net. January is the latest we would need a decent FFP exit strategy and banking on selling Minteh wouldn’t have been a good strategy. Or Anderson for that matter.  And it seems likely they both their transfers wasn’t enough which is why the Ashworth deal went through the same day.  
 

With FFP you need a proper fucking plan. With several different other routes. We were underprepared and a Minteh ACL away from selling the car or house.  Or going grovelling in Chelsea, Leicester etc. for an even crazier deal than the Forest ones. 
 

I think we’ve learnt our lessons which is partly why this summer we are moving much slower. 

[Menace]

[The Prophet]

[et tu brute]

26 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

You can wish we were able to keep him but still understand and accept the reasons he was sold. 
I mean… that’s pretty straight forward right

I just don't understand people going on about it. I would have been perfectly ok with him being sold for the fee we got without any PSR necessarily. £33 million, a massive profit, for a player where a lot of his own fan base last season were still not entirely convinced, seems pretty good to me. Each to their own though, time will tell. 

[madras]

10 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

We clearly had our price for Bruno and the deadline was purposely lined up to help with the FFP deadline.  
 

And in any case - it doesn’t look like anyone bid £80m to test our resolve. 
 

The contract and clause was signed within this FFP window. 
 

BTW this is the scenario that gives the club the MOST credit.  I hope you realise that. We knew we would have a FFP shortfall in October when the contract was signed. And by January we knew it would likely be £50m net. January is the latest we would need a decent FFP exit strategy and banking on selling Minteh wouldn’t have been a good strategy. Or Anderson for that matter.  And it seems likely they both their transfers wasn’t enough which is why the Ashworth deal went through the same day.  
 

With FFP you need a proper fucking plan. With several different other routes. We were underprepared and a Minteh ACL away from selling the car or house.  Or going grovelling in Chelsea, Leicester etc. for an even crazier deal than the Forest ones. 
 

I think we’ve learnt our lessons which is partly why this summer we are moving much slower. 

Eales said we would possibly have to trade, probably a purple......we didn't need to. I'd say the plan (which isn't really a plan, more a preparedness for differing circumstances) worked. 

 

It was always going to be tight given the situation we came from (little in the way of saleable assets we can survive without) but we gambled and got through with the purples intact.

[Lee Charnley]

2 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

This sale isn’t a model sale. The model is to sell players that are good but not good enough for us for a profit.  KDB was deemed not good enough. That wasn’t the situation here. 

 

Nobody has said otherwise. 

We should have just sold Bruno,Isak or Gordon then as we needed to sell. You should explain your model, what would you have done differently over the last 3 years. We overspent, over achieved. Selling a player we had never seen who may turn out to be the next Pele and Anderson is ok. It's better than selling players that we know perform. You can blame the leadership but we would have got relegated in the first season. 

[Kanj]

How is this still a conversation a month later? For fuck sake. 

[Rich]

[Kanj]

It’s so fucking mind numbing. Seriously shut the fuck up over it. 

[The College Dropout]

27 minutes ago, et tu brute said:

I just don't understand people going on about it. I would have been perfectly ok with him being sold for the fee we got without any PSR necessarily. £33 million, a massive profit, for a player where a lot of his own fan base last season were still not entirely convinced, seems pretty good to me. Each to their own though, time will tell. 

You might’ve been happy to sell regardless. But the wider view in the game is that Minteh could end up being worth much more than that pretty soon. Which is why a decent number of clubs wanted him at £30m+. It’s like selling a stock in a company that you bought early for cheap when the market thinks it’s going to continue to do well. 
 

I also don’t think the club thought it’s the optimal time to sell either. But we had debts to pay and it was the stock or the car or the house that had to go. 

29 minutes ago, madras said:

Eales said we would possibly have to trade, probably a purple......we didn't need to. I'd say the plan (which isn't really a plan, more a preparedness for differing circumstances) worked. 

 

It was always going to be tight given the situation we came from (little in the way of saleable assets we can survive without) but we gambled and got through with the purples intact.

Mate - a £300m revenue per year business needs hard plans for rules that will directly impact business performance. Being prepared means having several actionable plans in good time. In this case That means September or January at the latest. Selling Minteh - could not have been one of them until fairly late in the game.  

 

If it wasn’t for doing last minute shady deals with Forest AND getting comp for Ashworth - we still would’ve had to sell a purple.  
 

Eales said we would probably need to sell a purple…. Because he planned to sell a purple (Bruno) or a blue (Joelinton).  
 

Chelsea’s FFP strategy is to find loopholes and sell academy products. 
 

I know we didn’t plan to do the loophole thing until late in the day because our dodgy transfers with Forest were very very shit.  

[Unbelievable]

47 minutes ago, Kanji said:

It’s so fucking mind numbing. Seriously shut the fuck up over it. 

Nobody needs to stfu except the people coming into a thread to tell people to stop posting in it when they can easily avoid entering it…

 

edit: to illustrate that point, I couldn’t care less for the MLS or England (national team), but you don’t see me telling people to stop posting in them, or for mods to lock them because they bore the hell out of me?

 

 

Edited July 28, 2024 by Unbelievable

[madras]

11 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

You might’ve been happy to sell regardless. But the wider view in the game is that Minteh could end up being worth much more than that pretty soon. Which is why a decent number of clubs wanted him at £30m+. It’s like selling a stock in a company that you bought early for cheap when the market thinks it’s going to continue to do well. 
 

I also don’t think the club thought it’s the optimal time to sell either. But we had debts to pay and it was the stock or the car or the house that had to go. 

Mate - a £300m revenue per year business needs hard plans for rules that will directly impact business performance. Being prepared means having several actionable plans in good time. In this case That means September or January at the latest. Selling Minteh - could not have been one of them until fairly late in the game.  

 

If it wasn’t for doing last minute shady deals with Forest AND getting comp for Ashworth - we still would’ve had to sell a purple.  
 

Eales said we would probably need to sell a purple…. Because he planned to sell a purple (Bruno) or a blue (Joelinton).  
 

Chelsea’s FFP strategy is to find loopholes and sell academy products. 
 

I know we didn’t plan to do the loophole thing until late in the day because our dodgy transfers with Forest were very very shit.  

I know we'd have had to sell a purple ....but we didn't.

 

Re having plans, plans are there (ie if a 150mill bid comes in for Isak) but they aren't plans really as you don't know if they're coming or not so they are only preparations for scenarios.. ..if we hadn't done "shady deals with Forest" then it may have been a purple....as it turns  out it wasn't.

 

We can't say if a purple had been sold what we'd have done with the cash, so as of now, I'm happier with those purples still here and Minteh and Anderson paying off our debts.

[McDog]

OK you fuckers, you want my opinion on this? Oh, I see. Right then.

Cheerio lads. I'll be off then.

 

 

(it is getting tedious)

 

 

Edited July 28, 2024 by McDog

[et tu brute]

1 hour ago, The College Dropout said:

You might’ve been happy to sell regardless. But the wider view in the game is that Minteh could end up being worth much more than that pretty soon. Which is why a decent number of clubs wanted him at £30m+. It’s like selling a stock in a company that you bought early for cheap when the market thinks it’s going to continue to do well. 
 

I also don’t think the club thought it’s the optimal time to sell either. But we had debts to pay and it was the stock or the car or the house that had to go. 

 

You can crap on as much as you want to. He is totally unproven within a major league. Time will tell if he will actually be even premier league quality. It was him or Gordon and the correct decision was made. That's my view and I think it's time to stop keep going on about him as people are getting irritated. I'm not even going to bother looking at this thread in future as he's not our player anymore 

[gdm]

7 hours ago, Kanji said:

It’s so fucking mind numbing. Seriously shut the fuck up over it. 

More fool you opening a thread titled ‘

Yankuba Minteh (now playing for Brighton & Hove Albion)’ and expecting anything else. Some might even say it’s stupidity 

 

same goes for anyone else moaning about any other threads. If it annoys you don’t open the thread it’s as simple as it gets 

 

 

Edited July 29, 2024 by gdm

[r0cafella]

Am I the only one who thinks he’s going to be really good but we did the right thing selling?

[Froggy]

Clear this guy is the next Messi.

[Gawalls]

4 minutes ago, Froggy said:

Clear this guy is the next Messi.

Messi wishes he could be like Minteh 😀

[tarie4]

7 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

You might’ve been happy to sell regardless. But the wider view in the game is that Minteh could end up being worth much more than that pretty soon. Which is why a decent number of clubs wanted him at £30m+. It’s like selling a stock in a company that you bought early for cheap when the market thinks it’s going to continue to do well. 
 

I also don’t think the club thought it’s the optimal time to sell either. But we had debts to pay and it was the stock or the car or the house that had to go. 

Mate - a £300m revenue per year business needs hard plans for rules that will directly impact business performance. Being prepared means having several actionable plans in good time. In this case That means September or January at the latest. Selling Minteh - could not have been one of them until fairly late in the game.  

 

Eales said we would probably need to sell a purple…. Because he planned to sell a purple (Bruno) or a blue (Joelinton).  
 

Chelsea’s FFP strategy is to find loopholes and sell academy products. 
 

I know we didn’t plan to do the loophole thing until late in the day because our dodgy transfers with Forest were very very shit.  

The most successful businesses take risks too. It's ridiculous to say we didn't have a plan, when we're PSR compliant.

 

You say the plan was to sell Bruno, and you point to his release clause and the timing of it. Sometimes you mention the contract situation of big Joe, saying we could have sold him.

 

I can also mention Almiron, Tripps, and maybe Wilson in January. We didn't manage to sell them, but those were plans. We had them, but they didn't work out. No one came in for Bruno, Almiron refused to go to the Saudis, and the offers for Wilson and Tripps weren't good enough.

 

What I don't understand, or maybe it's just funny to me, is that you say the club didn't have a plan or didn't plan for the PSR. But you mention Bruno's release clause, Big Joe, and others in the January transfer window. Those seem like plans to me, even though they didn't work out. The last-ditch plan or solution was to sell Minteh and do a shady deal with Forrest.

 

Amanda warned us that the big six clubs wouldn't help us and would try to take advantage of us. That's why there are always reports about Isak going to Arsenal for 75 million and so on.

 

You mentioned Eales and selling a purple or a blue player. I think he thought selling Minteh, who is neither purple nor blue, was a better idea.

It'll be interesting to see how things play out as the season goes on.

[Lazarus]

How i feel reading this thread...

 

 

[Coffee_Johnny]

4 minutes ago, Lazarus said:

How i feel reading this thread...

 

 

To steal someone else’s line, not everything needs to be posted 🤢