WinstonFC Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 We could spend 200m easily and be FFP compliant if the deals are structured correctly. Tonali 55m, Szobo 60m leaves you with enough to play with. Arsenal are potentially dropping 220m on Havertz, Rice and Timber. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Just now, WinstonFC said: We could spend 200m easily and be FFP compliant if the deals are structured correctly. Tonali 55m, Szobo 60m leaves you with enough to play with. Arsenal are potentially dropping 220m on Havertz, Rice and Timber. It’s wages we mainly have a problem with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Kid Icarus said: £60m is a lot like, but he does look good and is 22. It is but IMO the club will think the lower wages to Maddison and no disruption to wage structure far more offset it. I think they real problem is a release clause has to be paid in one go I believe (?) and can’t be structured to help FFP. We paid for Gordon up front so our wriggle room is tight. Like that Rob lad says if nothing else is looking likely and Liverpool start getting closer they may just pull the trigger if FFP allows it which I’ve no idea if it does or if I’m reading how it works wrongly ?♂️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinstonFC Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, Manxst said: It’s wages we mainly have a problem with. Wages should not be a problem for Szobo. Hes on 35k a week atm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 10 minutes ago, WinstonFC said: We could spend 200m easily and be FFP compliant if the deals are structured correctly. Tonali 55m, Szobo 60m leaves you with enough to play with. Arsenal are potentially dropping 220m on Havertz, Rice and Timber. Given Eales said (paraphrasing) “we’ll spend whatever FFP allows”, I find that very, very doubtful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mag3.14 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, LFEE said: It is but IMO the club will think the lower wages to Maddison and no disruption to wage structure far more offset it. I think they real problem is a release clause has to be paid in one go I believe (?) and can’t be structured to help FFP. We paid for Gordon up front so our wriggle room is tight. Like that Rob lad says if nothing else is looking likely and Liverpool start getting closer they may just pull the trigger if FFP allows it which I’ve no idea if it does or if I’m reading how it works wrongly ?♂️ I think the way the fee actually is paid does not affect the FFP calculation, which has the fee split/amortised over the length of the contract up to a maximum of 5 years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, WinstonFC said: Wages should not be a problem for Szobo. Hes on 35k a week atm I’m sure we can afford it, although he’d probably want £100kpw+, but we won’t have too much wriggle room for other signings unless we start getting rid of players too. Our wage to income is pretty poor at best (or at least was very poor before the new Sela deal). Plus he’d get offered a lot more if he went to Liverpool, so let’s hope that is just talk. You mentioned Arsenal earlier (I think?)- their wages paid out in 2021-22 accounted for just 58 per cent of turnover and only in 2020-21, the season played almost totally behind closed doors, has the ratio gone higher than 70 per cent. Ours in comparison for the last set of accounts showed a wages-to-turnover ratio of 94.6 per cent. New sponsorship deals undoubtedly help bring this down, but not by much if we’re giving £100kpw+ away to every new signing. edit- also, comparatively, Arsenals income was £369m whilst ours was £180m. Edited June 28, 2023 by Manxst Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, WinstonFC said: We could spend 200m easily and be FFP compliant if the deals are structured correctly. Tonali 55m, Szobo 60m leaves you with enough to play with. Arsenal are potentially dropping 220m on Havertz, Rice and Timber. Not true. Most estimates say around 75-100m ish is the limit for this year. Edited June 28, 2023 by McCormick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, McCormick said: Not true. Most estimates say around 75-100m ish is the limit. I think Maguire, etc seem to think we have plenty of wiggle room. It's more the wages to turnover ratio that's the issue. Edited June 28, 2023 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 (edited) Fair enough. I don’t know enough about our finances or Ffp regulations to say. I’m just quoting a few articles I read and that Fourfourtwo YouTube vid. Edited June 28, 2023 by McCormick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Rumoura about that Liverpool now after Dom Sloz… Would be absolutely gutted if they got him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Tonali news? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 25 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said: Tonali news? Documents are being prepared and pens are being bought… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 2 hours ago, WinstonFC said: We could spend 200m easily and be FFP compliant if the deals are structured correctly. Tonali 55m, Szobo 60m leaves you with enough to play with. Arsenal are potentially dropping 220m on Havertz, Rice and Timber. how do you know? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUICE690 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 (edited) Playing again now. U21 Italy vs Norway. https://www.uefa.tv/match/live/243061/2036144 Edited June 28, 2023 by JUICE690 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Guessing they'll play Spain in the last 8 on the 1st July. Hopefully he will be here by the 2nd. No offence Sandro Son Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Passes the ball like me does tonali ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSG Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 A goal for either Norway or Switzerland and he could be heading here a bit earlier… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Noticed he's playing as a number 6, rather than an 8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonesJones Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Dull game this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Bring him home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 13 minutes ago, BonesJones said: Dull game this. Norway take the lead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Italy going out as it stands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Not go on goals scored? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Head to head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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