High Five o Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 Can't wait for Tonali and Shola messing around on the training field. https://twitter.com/FBAwayDays/status/1673058186855579648?t=rt5L_oX5C7_86U_cNDj2OA&s=19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 1 minute ago, High Five o said: Can't wait for Tonali and Shola messing around on the training field. https://twitter.com/FBAwayDays/status/1673058186855579648?t=rt5L_oX5C7_86U_cNDj2OA&s=19 That’s brilliant! ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 On 24/06/2023 at 21:06, Stifler said: One of the best goals ever. How it’s not an all time great, I’ll never know. It was better than Bergkamps Vs Dabizas purely because I'm still convinced today that it was not deliberate. The ball fell in a good place and he took the best advantage. However Roberts invertved overhead backwards karate goal was for Man U or Arsenal at the time it would be considered one of the all time great goals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 My bath is now extremely cold. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 On 24/06/2023 at 20:53, Wolfcastle said: That's fair enough because of your age you'll have missed Ginola. Himself miles better than Robert for me. Better player by far but Robert was far more effective and transformative to a team. Ginola was a much better footballer by far but in terms of a team Ginola inched a good team to being great, Robert (and Bellamy) took an average team to almost great. I saw both and would take Robert over Ginola in a heartbeat in today's game. Both moody and lazy, one could dazzle with tricks and dribbles every game and produce nothing but entertainment, the other would do the square route of sod all for a game, then win the next three by himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, gjohnson said: Better player by far but Robert was far more effective and transformative to a team. Ginola was a much better footballer by far but in terms of a team Ginola inched a good team to being great, Robert (and Bellamy) took an average team to almost great. I saw both and would take Robert over Ginola in a heartbeat in today's game. Both moody and lazy, one could dazzle with tricks and dribbles every game and produce nothing but entertainment, the other would do the square route of sod all for a game, then win the next three by himself. Ben Arfa for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Ben Arfa for me Ben Arfa has all of Ginolas trickery and then some all of Robert’s power and end product and then sadly N’Zogbias moodiness and even Obertan’s mindset Edited June 26, 2023 by kingxlnc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 Every time I see his name, I always wonder how Charles N'Dogbia is doing. You heard anything from him @cubaricho? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 12 minutes ago, Conjo said: Every time I see his name, I always wonder how Charles N'Dogbia is doing. You heard anything from him @cubaricho? Ruff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 25 minutes ago, Conjo said: Every time I see his name, I always wonder how Charles N'Dogbia is doing. You heard anything from him @cubaricho? Awwww he passed away a few years back. ? I’m actually hanging with his dad next week for the first time in a few years too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Dawg UK Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 On 21/06/2023 at 14:16, Kanji said: For all who need the context let me bring you back 10+ years @Deputy Dawg UK is elite. So are you buddy !! Still mates ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 HBA better than Robert? Sacrilege. (I’m also owld enough to have watched Ginola. And I’d have Robert in my XI ahead of him). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 It’s a beautiful day to announce Sandro Tonali as a Newcastle player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 Let's just sign Arda Guler then we can debate where he sits on that list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 22 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: HBA better than Robert? Sacrilege. (I’m also owld enough to have watched Ginola. And I’d have Robert in my XI ahead of him). Yep. In terms of productivity definitely Robert > HBA > Ginola. In terms of just watching HBA > Ginola > Robert. Loved Ginola and still the only play I greeted on day of his signing. Ultimately though his numbers weren’t anywhere near as good as the others or even ASM who people moan about ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 2 hours ago, cubaricho said: Awwww he passed away a few years back. ? I’m actually hanging with his dad next week for the first time in a few years too! RIP Charles N'Dogbia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 3 hours ago, cubaricho said: Awwww he passed away a few years back. ? I’m actually hanging with his dad next week for the first time in a few years too! No chance of a Nick Pup? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 5 hours ago, gjohnson said: Better player by far but Robert was far more effective and transformative to a team. Ginola was a much better footballer by far but in terms of a team Ginola inched a good team to being great, Robert (and Bellamy) took an average team to almost great. I saw both and would take Robert over Ginola in a heartbeat in today's game. Both moody and lazy, one could dazzle with tricks and dribbles every game and produce nothing but entertainment, the other would do the square route of sod all for a game, then win the next three by himself. Agree entirely. Ginola was a luxury that we couldn't carry at that stage under Sir Bobby and football generally has gone like that now. Even a Man City might not risk a Ginola, Tino, Le-Tissier type now. Substance over style. If you can win with the style that would be perfect though so its a personal interpreation of what 'best' is and whether entertainment overrides practicality. As he's come up I often think that way about N'Zogbia and Milner. N'Zogbia, to me and with us, was the better 'footballer' most ability, style but Milner's attitude was better and look at their careers. Milner would often not look good, horrible shots, crosses but he wouldn't hide the next time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahoneys Tache Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 10 minutes ago, Wolfcastle said: Agree entirely. Ginola was a luxury that we couldn't carry at that stage under Sir Bobby and football generally has gone like that now. Even a Man City might not risk a Ginola, Tino, Le-Tissier type now. Substance over style. If you can win with the style that would be perfect though so its a personal interpreation of what 'best' is and whether entertainment overrides practicality. As he's come up I often think that way about N'Zogbia and Milner. N'Zogbia, to me and with us, was the better 'footballer' most ability, style but Milner's attitude was better and look at their careers. Milner would often not look good, horrible shots, crosses but he wouldn't hide the next time. Beardsley was the rarest of beasts that had both. If he was South American or Italian or from anywhere but Benwell he’d have got more recognition than he did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 3 hours ago, Deputy Dawg UK said: So are you buddy !! Still mates ?? @Deuce @Yorkie I could leave this forum now and be happy with this redemption arc between Deputy Dawg and I Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 The Mail reporting that the fee for this is actually £52 million. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 1 minute ago, The Prophet said: The Mail reporting that the fee for this is actually £52 million. 23 million left to spend then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 1 minute ago, The Prophet said: The Mail reporting that the fee for this is actually £52 million. Sounds about right. We were never going to go from £45m to £70m in negotiations ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 When were talking about productivity I think were forgetting Ginola/Gillespie's constant supply to Ferdinand being the most prominent feature of our attacking in those days. Every time either had the ball on the flank it was a threat. 1 minute ago, Mahoneys Tache said: Beardsley was the rarest of beasts that had both. If he was South American or Italian or from anywhere but Benwell he’d have got more recognition than he did. Too right. As good at tackling as he was nut-megging, scorer of worldies, creator supreme whilst having a 'water-carriers' work ethic. As highly rated as he is, it doesn't seem enough when you think about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 Just now, LFEE said: Sounds about right. We were never going to go from £45m to £70m in negotiations ? That's a Chelsea thing to do, not us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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