Paully Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Toonjam88 said: That can’t be real surely? Can’t remember it. Aye it was, mental! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, Toonjam88 said: That can’t be real surely? Can’t remember it. It was real Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 30 minutes ago, ploppy43 said: to which post are you referring? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave s Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 “Ryan Fraser, Jeff Hendrick and Isaac Hayden are training separately from the first team and won't be involved in senior pre-season fixtures.” What are we doing with these 3 you reckon? more loans or just bin them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Loans until the end of their contracts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Thanks Obamashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 These might have been the contracts we provided for already so we could possibly let terminate them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Lord, please grant us the gift of patience. But let me have mine now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 9 hours ago, toontownman said: N-O members waiting for the next signing Class.?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Hayden could do a really good job in the Championship for 90% of teams in that league. I am surprised no one is in for him. As an Ashley era signing I can’t see his wages being that high. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Jesse Pinkman said: Hayden could do a really good job in the Championship for 90% of teams in that league. I am surprised no one is in for him. As an Ashley era signing I can’t see his wages being that high. Think his injury record will put most teams off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Think his injury record will put most teams off. And his wages. Same for all of our deadbeats unfortunately, Ashley signed off on these contracts because he thought with Bruceball we survive with a bit of luck and Maxi magic. Let's not forget we were dishing out uncalled for new contracts to Jonjo and Ritchie as well on the same premise. Keep us up boys and we'll pay you more than you'll get at a proper club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Jesse Pinkman said: Hayden could do a really good job in the Championship for 90% of teams in that league. I am surprised no one is in for him. As an Ashley era signing I can’t see his wages being that high. He has signed a new contract in the PL while he's been here though. At a conservative estimate he's probably still on 30-40k a week. Maybe more. That would put him as one of the highest earners in the Championship. The problem we have is the bottom has fell out financially in the Championship. And even if a club is going to gamble financially to try and go up, at a push they're going to do it for a player who's guarenteed to make a difference at that level, not an injury prone defensive midfielder who played 12 games for Norwich last year. Unfortunately we're going to really struggle to shift any of our deadwood without simply subsidising loans or paying people off. Edited July 14, 2023 by ponsaelius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 When we signed Hayden as a Championship player he'd have been on probably 10k a week. A progressive club would have moved him on 3-4 years ago in his mid 20s when he had a market to low Prem/high Champ clubs with an affordable wage bracket. Instead, like with so many other players from that era, they have been kept on because we've refused to invest and improve the side. But we're seeing so clearly now what a false economy this is when you end up with aging average players on big wages. The club being taken over and trying to rapidly progress has only underlined this more starkly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Bored of pressing refresh waiting for a new link... So went on .com and looked back at July 2020 rumours. And it feels like bloody deja vu.. Chasing Chiesa and trying to sell Miggy and Maxi! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 1 hour ago, dave s said: “Ryan Fraser, Jeff Hendrick and Isaac Hayden are training separately from the first team and won't be involved in senior pre-season fixtures.” What are we doing with these 3 you reckon? more loans or just bin them? These will be on about £150k a week between them. That's an Isak, Bruno, Tonali. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Of all the deadwood (an unpleasantly pejorative term in the case of one or two), I could probably handle Hayden sticking around and regaining his fitness, assuming he was content to be omitted from the PL squad and was available for the domestic cups. Can't see it hurting having another good character in the dressing room and - while we don't owe him anything - it'd be a good gesture to help him get back to full fitness. That's if it's in any way economically preferable to us; i.e. I'd probably rather that than go to any expense in making him a free agent. Hendrick, on the other hand, I'd happily contribute to the pay-off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Can you not just terminate the contracts of all the dead wood we have ? Pay them off and free up more wages for FFP? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Hendrick and Hayden have already been written off according to the accounts, so while they are still being paid a wage it doesn’t impact FFP anymore is my understanding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Just now, Geogaddi said: Can you not just terminate the contracts of all the dead wood we have ? Pay them off and free up more wages for FFP? Not 100% but it'd still go against us? Unless they took a hit which they'd silly to, that's probably £15-20m in one shot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Then you throw in Darlow who I'm guessing will be on £25-30k ish, Dummett and Ritchie who'll not be far off, there's a helluva lot of money going out on players who'll pay about 5 games combined all season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Would absolutely love to fuck Hendrick off, like. Imagine playing alongside that useless tosser. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 15 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Not 100% but it'd still go against us? Unless they took a hit which they'd silly to, that's probably £15-20m in one shot. I'm sure it still does, that write off is just from an accounting perspective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 16 minutes ago, toon25 said: Would absolutely love to toss Hendrick off, like. Imagine playing alongside that handsome fucker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Optimistic Nut said: These will be on about £150k a week between them. That's an Isak, Bruno, Tonali. Reckon it'll be more than that since Fraser and Hendrick were free transfers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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