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7 minutes ago, gbandit said:

Not disagreeing that we’ve needed improvements on the wings, if Gordon can play there to a high standard we might be ok. However, the reason there was barely any rotation in our defence was because we largely stayed injury free and had barely anyone to cover 

That and Howe said he preferred a settled back four - said as much when questioned about why Targett couldn't get in the team. But anytime he's tried to go after a game he's always looked to bring on wingers first and foremost. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Thumbheed said:

That and Howe said he preferred a settled back four - said as much when questioned about why Targett could get into the team. But anytime he's tried to go after a game he's always looked to bring on wingers first and foremost. 

I'll bet we were top or close in using subs last season which were often forwards and midfielders purely to have fresh legs and maintain intensity.

 

It'll be interesting to see if it's a ploy others look at and copy 

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Think our front three need to work their bollox off out possession so there's more need to rotate.

 

Hard to see any of our attackers playing 90 minutes on a Sunday and then doing it again on a Wednesday in the CL.

 

We need another winger IMO. Went into the summer needing one and we've sold one and brought one in.

 

Chiesa loan to buy just seems such a good idea :lol:

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There's alot of players who I just don't count as serviceable players, the likes of Dummett and Ritchie who will only play in the event of an emergency... with that in mind... (Let's assume Darlow and ASM gone).

 

*Flexible players

 

 

GK: Pope, Dubravka, Karius (3)

 

RB: Trippier, Krafth, Manquillo (3)

RCB: Schar, Lascelles (2)

LCB: Botman, Burn* (2)

LB: Burn*, Targett, Trippier (3)

 

CM: Bruno, Tonali, Joelinton*, Longstaff, Willock, Anderson*, Miley (7)

 

RW: Miggy, Murphy, Gordon* Anderson* (4)

LW: Barnes, Joelinton*, Gordon*, Isak* Anderson* (5)

 

FW: Isak*, Wilson, Gordon* (3)

 

I recognise their are alot of "copies" amongst this list but I think it's important to stress we have signed players BECAUSE they are flexible and it's a benefit and not a problem. Having someone like Gordon up to speed (fingers crossed) who's a jack of all trades, is of massive benefit to the group.

 

On the other hand, defence sticks out like a sore thumb. Two injuries and we go from one of the best defences in the league, to something more akin to a bottom half side. It does seem strange that we have targeted Livramento, who plays on the right when left seems to be less stocked. Perhaps his flexibility and Trippiers ability to play on the left is a factor.

 

It actually wouldn't surprise me at all if we target another left footed centre back. That frees up Burn and offers us depth.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Not a rumour, but Arsenal fans are saying Tierney hasn’t even had a look in during pre season despite being fully fit. 
 

Definitely a deal to be done there if we are still interested.

Came on as sub in all their three friendly games so far, on 46, 65 and 50 minutes, so he’s probably played as much as anyone else. 

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3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Not a rumour, but Arsenal fans are saying Tierney hasn’t even had a look in during pre season despite being fully fit. 
 

Definitely a deal to be done there if we are still interested.

 

Makes you wonder if we are sitting tight on that one. Waiting for Arsenal to be slightly desperate for a sale. Bring the price down.

 

Us getting Tierney for 20m in the last week of the window would be amazing.

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I’m surprised how many on here don’t see/or choose to not see our lack of creativity? Even more teams this season will try to limit our game when it comes to transitional play. Tactically decide that the best thing against us is to sit deep. Especially the “lesser teams”. Transfer window ain’t closed yet but imho we need some real flair and creativity to not drop too many points against the “lesser” sides. I’m sure it’s been mentioned before but it kind of feels like it’s been pretty quiet on this overall. Maybe I have missed it as I haven’t been too active lately because of vacation. 

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16 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

I just don’t think we can accommodate a number 10 or dedicated creative player because of our system and style. 
 

We’ll be relying on quick 1-2s, bit of pace and some dribbling by Isak. 


Imo it doesn’t need to be a 10. It could be say a right sided forward that is creative. There are creative players with work rate and pace out there that we could use in all kinds of games. Quick 1-2s hasn’t really helped us that much against low block defences as there is next to no space (quite a few occasions). I think teams playing against us this coming season will be “less naive” and try to sit deeper and frustrate us. Id be very surprised if there isn’t any creative players out there that would fit in to our team and style. Doesn’t have to be a dedicated creative player. I think as we evolve we need to be able to adapt and play different styles at times. Even if we have our “base style”. That’s just my opinion and view in it. Time will tell how well we do against low block defending teams. And yeah, having a more creative player doesn’t mean we have to change our style. Just the player himself will help to drag players out of position and unlock and make things happen in tight spaces. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Menace said:

I thought both him and Mckennie were honking tbh


McKennie didn’t impress with Leeds, but Adams was ace last season. As important to Leeds as Palhinha was to Fulham. 

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33 minutes ago, Ikon said:

I’m surprised how many on here don’t see/or choose to not see our lack of creativity? Even more teams this season will try to limit our game when it comes to transitional play. Tactically decide that the best thing against us is to sit deep. Especially the “lesser teams”. Transfer window ain’t closed yet but imho we need some real flair and creativity to not drop too many points against the “lesser” sides. I’m sure it’s been mentioned before but it kind of feels like it’s been pretty quiet on this overall. Maybe I have missed it as I haven’t been too active lately because of vacation. 


I don’t quite agree with that regarding a lack of creativity. These games against lesser teams and the amount of draws we had didn’t really come down to a lack of creativity or chances, and more to do with poor finishing. Even teams that sat deep against us, we still created chances to score. Think this is where Barnes comes into play.

 

Even without that flair player, I thought we were really creative.

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9 minutes ago, Ikon said:


Imo it doesn’t need to be a 10. It could be say a right sided forward that is creative. There are creative players with work rate and pace out there that we could use in all kinds of games. Quick 1-2s hasn’t really helped us that much against low block defences as there is next to no space (quite a few occasions). I think teams playing against us this coming season will be “less naive” and try to sit deeper and frustrate us. Id be very surprised if there isn’t any creative players out there that would fit in to our team and style. Doesn’t have to be a dedicated creative player. I think as we evolve we need to be able to adapt and play different styles at times. Even if we have our “base style”. That’s just my opinion and view in it. Time will tell how well we do against low block defending teams. And yeah, having a more creative player doesn’t mean we have to change our style. Just the player himself will help to drag players out of position and unlock and make things happen in tight spaces. 

 

Aye, much of the above is why I don't really like the idea of Gordon playing on the right.

 

Think ideally we get a left footed RW who is going to play quite narrow and operate in a lot of the spaces a #10 would normally find themselves in while Trippier bombs forward and provides the width.

 

Almiron is actually pretty well suited to it, but you'd want someone who offers more as a passer to help with what you've mentioned.

 

The ideal signing for this would probably be Raphinha but Barcelona not landing Messi or Guler likely killed off whatever slim hope we had of getting him.

 

I'd also have loved us to get Guler ourselves... but as I recall you don't really rate him, Ikon.

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