NUFC Transfer Rumours

[The Prophet]

36 minutes ago, Gawalls said:

Totally agree, I genuinely think we’re skint with FFP.

 

 

 

 

Don't think we need loads to be fair. I like the option of having a defensive midfielder and a keeper to cover or eventually replace Pope.

 

Obviously Almiron needs upgrading and I think we'll look at another striker, but these are big ticket players who won't come cheap. 

 

Speaking of which, did Wilson ever sign that contract extension or is he still out in the summer?

 

 

Edited December 31, 2023 by The Prophet

[ryanegg]

7 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

Don't think we need loads to be fair. I like the option of having a defensive midfielder and a keeper to cover or eventually replace Pope.

 

Obviously Almiron needs upgrading and I think we'll look at another striker, but these are big ticker players who won't come cheap. 

 

Speaking of which, did Wilson ever sign that contract extension or is he still out in the summer?

Signed a one-year extension IIRC.

[jackflap]

Think if we go for Phillips it'll be a straight loan no obligation which City wouldn't be too keen on. May be one we'll have to wait until the end of the window for when City's options are slimmer and they may relent.

 

Would imagine that they'd like to sign someone at RW too who'd also be an option up front but that feels like it'll go the way of the quest for a midfielder last January. A shortage of realistic options and a reluctance to sign someone for the short term when we do have options there albeit limited. Plus Minteh is lurking in the background, maybe they like what they've seen of him.

 

I do think Barnes could work well on the right more so than Gordon. He's an intelligent footballer, technically decent and a relentless runner. A lot of our work down the right is derived from good combination play and he's probably our most trustworthy and decisive player in good attacking positions capable of finishing off either foot which is 2 more than Miggy at the moment.

 

 

Edited December 31, 2023 by jackflap

[loki679]

5 minutes ago, jackflap said:

Think if we go for Phillips it'll be a straight loan no obligation which City wouldn't be too keen on. May be one we'll have to wait until the end of the window for when City's options are slimmer and they may relent.

 

Would imagine that they'd like to sign someone at RW too who'd also be an option up front but that feels like it'll go the way of the quest for a midfielder last January. A shortage of realistic options and a reluctance to sign someone for the short term when we do have options there albeit limited. Plus Minteh is lurking in the background, maybe they like what they've seen of him.

 

I do think Barnes could work well on the right more so than Gordon. He's an intelligent footballer, technically decent and a relentless runner. A lot of our work down the right is derived from good combination play and he's probably our most trustworthy and decisive player in good attacking positions capable of finishing off either foot which is 2 more than Miggy at the moment.

 

 

 

 

Minteh has looked decent but I wouldn't consider bringing him back.  This loan is going to be doing wonders for his development and, looking at the longer term, we don't want to damage our relationship with Feyenoord for a short term fix, they could be a great partner for us in the future.

[The Prophet]

11 minutes ago, ryanegg said:

Signed a one-year extension IIRC.

 

 

Just checked. In the summer it's currently Gillespie, Manquillo, Krafth, Schar, Lascelles, Dummett and Ritchie.

[PauloGeordio]

59 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

 

Just checked. In the summer it's currently Gillespie, Manquillo, Krafth, Schar, Lascelles, Dummett and Ritchie.

Can see them letting all go bar Krafth, Schär,and Big Jam (depending on other plans/business, maybe all bar Schär)

 

 

Edited December 31, 2023 by PauloGeordio

[Dokko]

9 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said:

Can see them letting all go bar Krafth and Big Jam (depending on other plans/business, maybe all bar Schär)

 

Unless we're getting 2 premium CB's then we need to sign on Schar at least. Even then, 4 quality CB's should be min and if Schar was seen as our weakest option, we'd be on the right track.

[PauloGeordio]

41 minutes ago, Dokko said:

 

Unless we're getting 2 premium CB's then we need to sign on Schar at least. Even then, 4 quality CB's should be min and if Schar was seen as our weakest option, we'd be on the right track.

Meant Scär to be kept also  (corrected)

 

 

Edited December 31, 2023 by PauloGeordio

[Ben]

59 minutes ago, Dokko said:

 

Unless we're getting 2 premium CB's then we need to sign on Schar at least. Even then, 4 quality CB's should be min and if Schar was seen as our weakest option, we'd be on the right track.

I dont think Schar is wanted TBF, he can talk to other clubs in a couple of hours we've had long enough to speak to him by now.

[Dokko]

1 minute ago, Ben said:

I dont think Schar is wanted TBF, he can talk to other clubs in a couple of hours we've had long enough to speak to him by now.

 

If we're skint then he needs to stay. Out of all of them he's the best by some distance. 1st 10months of this year and he was lauded as one of the best we've had in that position. 

 

Maybe he has offers already from elsewhere, player/backroom role, we know he's doing quals for director positions.

[Ben]

I hope it doesnt affect his form for the rest of the season 

[Ben]

I hope it doesnt affect his form for the rest of the season 

[PauloGeordio]

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/fabian-schar-received-green-light-28368289

 

 

Schar's Newcastle contract expires at the end of the season but the centre-back has already expressed his desire to stay in the north east under Eddie Howe. The veteran has been an ever-present figure for the Magpies this term, featuring in every Premier League clash. 

“This is the best time of my career, playing in the best league,” Schar told reporters before the away clash with Borussia Dortmund in October. “I feel like this is my second home. 

 

"I have been here over five years. I feel really confident. The city and the club gave me a lot and I want to give something back. To see the fans, these good times, they deserve.”

 

 

 

Edited December 31, 2023 by PauloGeordio

[buzza]

Yep, phillips and a N°10 type creative playe who can also cover the wings would be superb.

Goallie is also a worry...

 

 

Edited December 31, 2023 by buzza

[Dr.Spaceman]

1 hour ago, jackflap said:

Think if we go for Phillips it'll be a straight loan no obligation which City wouldn't be too keen on. May be one we'll have to wait until the end of the window for when City's options are slimmer and they may relent.

 

Would imagine that they'd like to sign someone at RW too who'd also be an option up front but that feels like it'll go the way of the quest for a midfielder last January. A shortage of realistic options and a reluctance to sign someone for the short term when we do have options there albeit limited. Plus Minteh is lurking in the background, maybe they like what they've seen of him.

 

I do think Barnes could work well on the right more so than Gordon. He's an intelligent footballer, technically decent and a relentless runner. A lot of our work down the right is derived from good combination play and he's probably our most trustworthy and decisive player in good attacking positions capable of finishing off either foot which is 2 more than Miggy at the moment.

 

 

 

 

Could be describing either Gordon or Barnes there. Both would offer more than Miggy on the right and would help us mix it up a bit tactically. Looking forward to seeing it, personally.

[Aiston]

£10m'ish for Dybala from tomorrow for non-Italian clubs.

 

 

[aussiemag]

Paulinha, Olise and Gibbs-White please. 

[Ikon]

Just now, aussiemag said:

Paulinha, Olise and Gibbs-White please. 

First one no thanks (if you mean the Fulham player) Olise yes please, but would cost a bomb. MGW would cost more than I think he is worth but good player. 

[Bellis80]

Being restricted by FFP and buying players from Premier League clubs doesn’t make any sense. Recruitment has been strange the last two windows.

[TRon]

6 hours ago, Cronky said:

 

There's a rumour that City are holding out for a loan with an obligation to buy in the summer, which makes the decision a lot more tricky.

 

With the potential size of the transfer fee and wages, that would obviously restrict us in the summer. A question mark for me would be how well he would combine with Bruno, who is doing well in that anchor role despite not being a defensive midfielder. I guess that's a potential problem with whoever we might look to slot in alongside - and that includes Tonali.

Obviously it's been difficult for Phillips to get into that City side, with Rodri for competition, but there has been a hint that Pep is dubious about the player's general attitude. My money would be on Eddie's ability to motivate him though.

 

Is Bruno doing well in the DM role though? When we are on the ball he's great, but if we lose it the defence tends to look badly exposed against teams with pace up front.

[jackflap]

2 hours ago, loki679 said:

 

Minteh has looked decent but I wouldn't consider bringing him back.  This loan is going to be doing wonders for his development and, looking at the longer term, we don't want to damage our relationship with Feyenoord for a short term fix, they could be a great partner for us in the future.

Wasn't advocating bringing Minteh back but if they like the look of him and think he could contribute next season it'll make them less likely to make a move in this window. Realistically if he were to come back in January he'd be very unlikely to feature much barring of the bench. Had we made the Europa there'd be an argument purely for numbers but with none of the injuries season ending and a lighter schedule in the New Year it'd be a waste of time. That's a rare loan move that's actually worked out well so be a needlessly hasty move. The time to bring him back was a month ago when there was a bit more to salvage but the loan agreement and his injury made that a moot point.

[buzz]

28 minutes ago, aussiemag said:

Paulinha, Olise and Gibbs-White please. 

 

We're not going to be able to afford any of them  

[Mikky]

32 minutes ago, aussiemag said:

Paulinha, Olise and Gibbs-White please. 

 

Paulinha - think we can go abroad and get a quality 6 for a 3rd of the price Fulham would want 

 

 

 

Edited December 31, 2023 by Mikky

[jackflap]

11 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

Is Bruno doing well in the DM role though? When we are on the ball he's great, but if we lose it the defence tends to look badly exposed against teams with pace up front.

 

Bruno in that role which is his best puts a greater emphasis on the balance of the rest of the midfield and makes Big Joe a must in there. Miley for all his talents doesn't have the physical profile yet. Leaves us short creatively with Longstaff needed in there as well for his running but unfortunately that's what Tonali was signed for.

[Cronky]

28 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

Is Bruno doing well in the DM role though? When we are on the ball he's great, but if we lose it the defence tends to look badly exposed against teams with pace up front.

 

You're right, we do lose out defensively when he's played there, which was why I used the term 'anchor role'.

 

I think the problem is that, at Premiership level, you can't afford to have a player in that role who is limited to winning the ball. They will tend to get a lot of possession, and if they can't get the ball forward or support the attack when the chance arises, then too many opportunities are wasted. So despite his defensive limitations, Bruno is not easily replaced in that position. And to complicate things further, when in possession, he may be more effective with his team mates in front of him, where his passing and reading of the game come to the fore. There is speculation about how it would be better to free him up to receive the ball in more forward positions, but it's hard to tell how well that would work. 

 

FWIW, I think that Phillips is a bit more than a defensive player, so maybe if he comes, it'll be with a view to the two of them regularly alternating positions in the course of the game.

 

Where that might all leave Tonali is a moot point, of course.