NUFC Transfer Rumours

[Kimbo]

5 minutes ago, gdm said:

I understand that. Just a sore one if we are once again starting with Almiron. It just kills our attacks down the right hand side time and time again

It speaks volumes that no one wants him. He’s got 2 more years here and it looks likely that he’ll see out his contract.

[gbandit]

He won’t see out his contract like, fairly confident he’ll go this window 

[The Prophet]

 

[The College Dropout]

Good post. We are making trade offs. 
 

I do think missing pre season is tough for the RW.  Isak still struggled with the intensity of Howe ball last season. His second pre season with Howe will do him the world of good. Likewise Hall suffered massively from the lack of pre season too. Moreso. Chelsea didn’t even take him on tour iirc. 

[toon25]

Am still yet to be convinced that either Gordon or Barnes are anywhere near as effective at RW as they are at LW

[The College Dropout]

9 minutes ago, toon25 said:

Am still yet to be convinced that either Gordon or Barnes are anywhere near as effective at RW as they are at LW

Neither is Howe. 

[B-more Mag]

Howe shouldn't be at RW or LW, IMO.

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

Until he can demonstrate he has learned FFP rules he shouldn’t be allowed to play at all.

[vexred]

2 hours ago, SUPERTOON said:

Why Thursday?

 

Because there will be just over 2 weeks until the start of the season. It is barely enough time get players up to speed. Thursday was probably too specific, just that time is running out for incoming players to be involved in the first couple of games of the season. 

[SteV]

7 minutes ago, vexred said:

 

Because there will be just over 2 weeks until the start of the season. It is barely enough time get players up to speed. Thursday was probably too specific, just that time is running out for incoming players to be involved in the first couple of games of the season. 

In the grand scheme of things does it actually matter if any new players aren’t involved in the first couple of games?

 

They’ll be getting signed for 5 years not 5 games. Exactly as proven with Isak, getting the correct player is far more important than getting a player ‘now’.

[Conjo]

2 hours ago, McDog said:

 

 

Why would the default front 3 not be Gordon, Barnes and Isak? Why would Miggy get in before Gordon and yes, he absolutely can play RW.

 

Dan Burn can play are RW too, but he's not particularly good at it.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, The College Dropout said:

Good post. We are making trade offs. 
 

I do think missing pre season is tough for the RW.  Isak still struggled with the intensity of Howe ball last season. His second pre season with Howe will do him the world of good. Likewise Hall suffered massively from the lack of pre season too. Moreso. Chelsea didn’t even take him on tour iirc. 

 

I think Barnes suffered a bit by not coming in until late on until after we sold ASM. RW will be similar. Can see Murphy starting first couple, or preferably Gordon right and Barnes left until the RW is up to speed. 

[McDog]

Just now, Conjo said:

 

Dan Burn can play are RW too, but he's not particularly good at it.

 

 

Gordon is good at it. He's played plenty there and with Tino backing him up I think he'd be fine.

[Kid Icarus]

There really has been such a real lack of anything from the local journos like. As much as I think they're talking shite, it was always quite reassuring seeing them tweeting.

[Conjo]

25 minutes ago, McDog said:

 

 

Gordon is good at it. He's played plenty there and with Tino backing him up I think he'd be fine.

 

I don't think he's that good on the right, and limits him quite a lot not when not being able to cut inside like he does on the left. Better to play Almiron there imo.

[Ronaldo]

I just don’t know how we’re in 2024, 3 years after the takeover and talking about (almost 30 year old) Jacob Murphy starting the first few games of the season on the right of a front 3. I don’t know if you can put it down to a lack of boldness, planning, ambition or whatever but in context of the clubs we’re trying to finish above its amateur hour. Same with Wilson still being 2nd choice striker. 

[McDog]

Just now, Conjo said:

 

I don't think he's that good on the right, and limits him quite a lot not when not being able to cut inside like he does on the left. Better to play Almiron there imo.

 

 

We agree I think he's a bit better on the left but he's fine on the right. I think he's better the Almiron on the right. That is my opinion. I like Miggy coming on later in a game so this doesn't seem dire to me.

[Kid Icarus]

3 minutes ago, Ronaldo said:

I just don’t know how we’re in 2024, 3 years after the takeover and talking about (almost 30 year old) Jacob Murphy starting the first few games of the season on the right of a front 3. I don’t know if you can put it down to a lack of boldness, planning, ambition or whatever but in context of the clubs we’re trying to finish above its amateur hour. Same with Wilson still being 2nd choice striker. 

I don't think this will be the case come the end of the transfer window, but you have to admit that Murphy's made himself useful. 

[Guybrush]

Murphy is arguably the best crosser of the ball we have, so that's got to be a positive for the juice man

 

 

Edited July 29, 2024 by Guybrush
NP Juice

[RobsonsWonderland]

16 minutes ago, Ronaldo said:

I just don’t know how we’re in 2024, 3 years after the takeover and talking about (almost 30 year old) Jacob Murphy starting the first few games of the season on the right of a front 3. I don’t know if you can put it down to a lack of boldness, planning, ambition or whatever but in context of the clubs we’re trying to finish above its amateur hour. Same with Wilson still being 2nd choice striker. 

Because when the other option is someone who can't cross or assist.. then Murphy's positive contributions make him appear more valuable than he ever should be.

 

However as a backup to an improved rw signing.. I would be more than happy to keep him as a sub / reserve

 

[elbee909]

The teams above has have had years of extra investment to underpin everything. And they didn't have the regulations in place that exist now to hold them back.

[Ronaldo]

1 hour ago, Kid Icarus said:

I don't think this will be the case come the end of the transfer window, but you have to admit that Murphy's made himself useful. 

Sure. Without him we’d be playing Almiron, which raises even more questions. Murphy has been a model pro and has contributed, but he absolutely shouldn’t be starting.

[Groundhog63]

Only gripe I have against The Juice is him being a bit Full Kit Wanker getting on that plane. 

Socks upto his knees ffs. I know he's knocking on but thrombosis shouldn't be a fear 😂

[Zero]

5 hours ago, Ronaldo said:

Sure. Without him we’d be playing Almiron, which raises even more questions. Murphy has been a model pro and has contributed, but he absolutely shouldn’t be starting.

 

I genuinely think Howe prefers Almiron and Murphy to stay because they are willing to run like hell. Natural ability is not top priority.

 

So unless we could find someone who has similar work rate with more gifted ability, very likely we will start Almiron for the coming season again.

[kingxlnc]

Right now I’d swap last seasons squad for this seasons squad. 
 

keep Anderson and Minteh as they’d be more valuable over a season than Kelly and any of the keepers. I’d even be happy to keep Dubravka at number 2, as at least we have a new high potential RW who could take the role over from Almiron.

 

To be net better than last year, we would need one starting level player, at RW defo and two high potential players who could eventually replace incumbents at RCB (Schar) and back up CF (Wilson). 
 

Here’s me thinking it was going to be a 1995/96 style summer where a Ferdinand, Ginola et al would be coming in, been absolutely depressingly dead man