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My opinion on Calvert-Lewin is I don't rate him very highly, but I can see why Howe would want him (PL experience, hard worker, physical presence), and with him being available "on a free" and seemingly the worst of his injuries behind him I wouldn't be adverse to bringing him in provided the signing on fee and wages reflect that he would come in as a squad option. I would expect Howe to get the best out of someone like him, like he has numerous others and in a way I do think it makes sense to bring in someone with experience to play second fiddle to Isak as opposed to some costly prospect who will want loads of game time. A lot will depend also on how Howe and the coaching staff see Osula developing. If they think he can become the real deal it wouldn't make sense to bring in competition for him that will even further restrict the minutes he can get. The main thing is that whatever we do needs to make sense financially. As ever, the club have earned the trust to make the decision and whatever they decide will more likely than not end up being the correct decision. Many of us, me included, thought getting Gordon for 45-ish million was madness at the time. Scroll forward a year and a bit later and he's one of the best wingers in the league easily worth double what we paid for him.

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Very difficult to buy back-up strikers who know that they’re not playing in a 1-striker system. I don’t know non-English football well enough to know anymore, but it can’t be an easy sell to someone who knows they’re behind Isak and without much prospect of usurping him. 
 

Still a big if, but Howe has Jacob Murphy currently performing as one of the most effective right wingers / wide forwards in European football.

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I agree it's not fair to say that DCL is injury prone but he did have one pretty bad knee injury - and he's a player whose game was based entirely around a physical profile. Good leap, an aerial presence in and around the box and pretty quick. Not a technically accomplished player - indeed rarely seems to strike the ball cleanly.

 

Don't think he's ever looked quite the same since the injury. He'd be a rebuilding job and not sure that's worth the hassle.

 

Getting a player in whose happy to be back up CF to a guaranteed starter is difficult admittedly. 

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49 minutes ago, Joelinton7 said:

What’s this, the third year of the DCL talk blood splatter shoot self GIF by South Park

He's in the catacombs of the Jesmond Dene hotel along with the decomposed corpse of Tranquillo Barnetta. 

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Season after season, DCL is one of the league's biggest underachievers when comparing goals to xG. He goes though some unbelievably bad streaks.

 

If Howe thinks he can fix that, fair play, that's quite some confidence  :clap:

 

 

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1 hour ago, Crimson Cardigan said:

I don’t think it comes down to preferring Osula. We need three strikers. Osula is raw AF and, let’s be honest, has very unimpressive numbers to this point. The second guy needs to be a different profile, more experienced for sure. 

 

 

It's a good point you make about the back up striker needing to be a different profile of player. There's issue with that as well though, if they are too different then you risk having to change alot tactically if Isak gets injured for any length of time but then equally you need something different to come off the bench if it's not working for Isak.

 

DCL is the obvious one to point to and say he'd provide something very different than Isak but someone like Jonathan David would be perhaps allow us to swap him in without much adaptation. 

 

FWIW I don't see us getting David in, even for free, surely he'd realise he's not taking Isak spot in the team so he'd not be playing every week.

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8 minutes ago, Stifler said:

DCL is a dud and any serious club should be nowhere fucking near him.

Thankfully it’s Football insider saying that we are interest, so it’s 100% bullshit. 

We tried to buy him in the summer the rumour is credible on that basis imo. 

 

This deal would have pros and cons. 

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10 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

We tried to buy him in the summer the rumour is credible on that basis imo. 

 

This deal would have pros and cons. 

Do we know that? Could easily have been more bollocks back then.

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The DCL rumours have been very persistent, but I think our interest may be dropping, purely on the basis of what I've seen of Osula. He may not turn out to be quite as good as DCL (who at his injury-free peak was a very tidy player) but I like what I've seen so far. He certainly looks quick and strong. Above all, he has what I always like to see in a young player - that belief that he belongs out there on the pitch and is going to make things happen.

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5 hours ago, Ketsbaia said:

Season after season, DCL is one of the league's biggest underachievers when comparing goals to xG. He goes though some unbelievably bad streaks.

 

If Howe thinks he can fix that, fair play, that's quite some confidence  :clap:

 

 

 

I watched him closely against Villa away earlier in the season 

 

He was excellent.

 

i have never been his biggest fan but watching that game showed me he is a very good player if integrated into a proper team structure that create chances. 
 

He made 4 or 5 excellent runs , great in the air , hold up play was superb and ver strong , he scored too 

 

I just think he lacks confidence at times with Everton 

 

 

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No idea if it’ll actually happen but I don’t really have an issue with DCL coming in as a number 2 striker if it’s not costing fortunes. He’d probably do well under Howe, would benefit from an change and his fitness/injury record seems to have improved. Wilson will surely be away and I’d rather more money spent on RW. Pretty laid back either way on this one though. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Mazzy said:

 

 

FWIW I don't see us getting David in, even for free, surely he'd realise he's not taking Isak spot in the team so he'd not be playing every week.

I thought if David come in he could play the Joshua King role off just behind Isak who is the Wilson

 

so something like

 

Bruno Tonali

 

RW David Gordon

 

Isak

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Howe confirmed yesterday we’ll be taking a risk with outgoing transfers and no incomings (due to June PSR deadline) so I presume we’ll be hoping Wilson can play a part in the second half of this season and hope we can cope until Barnes is back fit.

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2 minutes ago, black_n_white said:

Howe confirmed yesterday we’ll be taking a risk with outgoing transfers and no incomings (due to June PSR deadline) so I presume we’ll be hoping Wilson can play a part in the second half of this season and hope we can cope until Barnes is back fit.


Yeah seems so. Wilson is aiming for end of the month/early Feb but god knows whether he can get/stay fit. The irony is if he can stay fit he’ll probably help secure champions league. The flip side is it’ll only take a few injuries and we’re bang in trouble.

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4 minutes ago, kingxlnc said:

I thought if David come in he could play the Joshua King role off just behind Isak who is the Wilson

 

so something like

 

Bruno Tonali

 

RW David Gordon

 

Isak

 

Yeah I know he has played as a CAM/Second Striker a fair bit so far in his career but that relies on Howe changing a formation he's had basically the entire time he's been here. Not saying it's impossible just that I don't see it happening personally. But having said that, he's free, so if Howe/Mitchell can convince him to come here and shows him how he would fit into the team then I'm all for it definitely.

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