SteV Posted Friday at 17:20 Share Posted Friday at 17:20 3 minutes ago, GEFAFWISP said: Personally hope we're diverging from over investing in the English market this summer having had our wings clipped by PSR, although value has worked out thus far on the targets we've acquired (Tino, Hall, Gordon...). If the club do it then of course, being serious, I trust their moves but hope we're a bit more creative than getting a Liverpool cast off at a premium (irrespective of perceived talent). That's hopefully where Mitchell comes in. Fuck the cartel sentiment still holds. I don’t think anyone’s against shopping in other markets, as you say it’s probably becoming, at least partly, a necessity. But it seems to me a mixed approach to where you recruit from is always best in the long run. Quansah has played for England at every single age group and just made the full squad. That’s exactly the type of player profile that Eddie has excelled in taking to the next level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted Friday at 17:34 Share Posted Friday at 17:34 When the talent ID is stupidly high in English game, why shop elsewhere? Yea dip occasionally in Europe, but majority of deals should be on these players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted Friday at 17:41 Share Posted Friday at 17:41 With all these clubs that have more room to spend and that throw money around more freely, more and more of their young talent will be wanting out as there is no lane for them to get a fair shot in the first team. It's something we should always be looking to exploit, provided the fees make sense and are not outrageous. Especially because Howe has shown time and time again he is so good at bringing these players along and getting them to perform at a high level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted Friday at 18:03 Share Posted Friday at 18:03 21 minutes ago, KaKa said: With all these clubs that have more room to spend and that throw money around more freely, more and more of their young talent will be wanting out as there is no lane for them to get a fair shot in the first team. It's something we should always be looking to exploit, provided the fees make sense and are not outrageous. Especially because Howe has shown time and time again he is so good at bringing these players along and getting them to perform at a high level. And they must see that which makes us a draw for them (those that aren’t just about the money) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEFAFWISP Posted Friday at 18:17 Share Posted Friday at 18:17 35 minutes ago, KaKa said: With all these clubs that have more room to spend and that throw money around more freely, more and more of their young talent will be wanting out as there is no lane for them to get a fair shot in the first team. It's something we should always be looking to exploit, provided the fees make sense and are not outrageous. Especially because Howe has shown time and time again he is so good at bringing these players along and getting them to perform at a high level. That's the key part for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted Friday at 18:42 Share Posted Friday at 18:42 Howe has also demonstrated that besides being a tremendous coach, he can win major trophies. A big factor for attracting talent going forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted Friday at 19:31 Share Posted Friday at 19:31 3 hours ago, KaKa said: Don't think that's clear yet. Young and English with some experience , so likely around what we paid for the likes of Gordon and Tino. So around £40 million if I had to hazard a guess. Anything more than that would be a joke. I thought it was quoted 50 + million. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted Friday at 19:35 Share Posted Friday at 19:35 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted Friday at 19:43 Share Posted Friday at 19:43 So his decision is that he’s keeping his options open and not making a decision Cheers Ben Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1tche Posted Friday at 20:43 Share Posted Friday at 20:43 6 hours ago, Fak said: Akliouche Akliouche is the one for me, his ceiling looks to be outrageously high, and he's a class player now as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted Friday at 21:06 Share Posted Friday at 21:06 We can talk about Eddie progressing players and English talents which he does. The way he handled Hall is a great point and he was the best leftback in the league for me this season but we can't just focus on England as our best players at present are not English. Good n maybe in the top 4/5 along with hall but it's Isak, Bruno and Tonali for me the top 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted Friday at 21:11 Share Posted Friday at 21:11 35 minutes ago, M1tche said: Akliouche is the one for me, his ceiling looks to be outrageously high, and he's a class player now as well Watched so much of him since we've been linked and I'm absolutely certain he's destined for the top. My number 1 signing. This guy is sensational. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted Friday at 21:21 Share Posted Friday at 21:21 11 minutes ago, relámpago blanco said: We can talk about Eddie progressing players and English talents which he does. The way he handled Hall is a great point and he was the best leftback in the league for me this season but we can't just focus on England as our best players at present are not English. Good n maybe in the top 4/5 along with hall but it's Isak, Bruno and Tonali for me the top 3. Very true, but we paid high end prices for them (well, not really Bruno), and even though they’ve proven more than worthy of those, we can’t really be shopping in that market more than very occasionally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted Friday at 22:55 Share Posted Friday at 22:55 Eddie mentioned in his presser today that he had been monitoring Tino since his academy days. If he has his sights set on Quansah, then go for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted yesterday at 05:09 Share Posted yesterday at 05:09 14 hours ago, SUPERTOON said: Semenyo linked but I hope we avoid him. I think he is unplayable on his day and still has room for improvement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted yesterday at 06:10 Share Posted yesterday at 06:10 1 hour ago, Coffee_Johnny said: I think he is unplayable on his day and still has room for improvement. He is definitely a good player, but has completely fallen off the second of the season. Bournemouth fans aren’t that keen on him either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted yesterday at 07:29 Share Posted yesterday at 07:29 If it was a choice between Mbeumo and Semenyo it would be the former, I’d also go for the lad from Monaco though, or someone they’ve been scouting off the radar. Think there’s a few candidates in Spain, France and Italy tenuously linked who could come in to play for the RW spot, if we need a striker also value for money will be important. Suspect the big money will go on a proven right sided CB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted yesterday at 08:46 Share Posted yesterday at 08:46 11 hours ago, SteV said: Very true, but we paid high end prices for them (well, not really Bruno), and even though they’ve proven more than worthy of those, we can’t really be shopping in that market more than very occasionally. We should be aggressively pushing for them at 17 before they sign their first pro contracts, whilst we have clear pathways into first team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1tche Posted yesterday at 09:33 Share Posted yesterday at 09:33 12 hours ago, Thumbheed said: Watched so much of him since we've been linked and I'm absolutely certain he's destined for the top. My number 1 signing. This guy is sensational. Agreed! I've done similar since he 1st link, was a little bit of Dennis Wise to start, and was sold on him from that, but have since made sure I've watched a few full games he's played and he is a special talent. If he has the right mentality, as you say, he'll be a star Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted yesterday at 10:35 Share Posted yesterday at 10:35 17 hours ago, Sibierski said: When the talent ID is stupidly high in English game, why shop elsewhere? Yea dip occasionally in Europe, but majority of deals should be on these players. Shouldnt be overpriced players just because they are English. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted yesterday at 10:39 Share Posted yesterday at 10:39 Just now, KingArthur said: Shouldnt be overpriced players just because they are English. Will always be a premium because the resale value is regularly high and top sides will always want good English players for the HG quota. Scamacca was £30m rising to £35m for West Ham other season. So would also argue back that it’s just not English players that are overpriced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shush Posted yesterday at 11:53 Share Posted yesterday at 11:53 16 hours ago, SUPERTOON said: More and more thinking this is a great move. He will get less minutes, but with more games he will perfect when Isak needs a rest or is injured. We need quality and he's great age. Him and a decent right winger and that's a decent forward line with depth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted yesterday at 16:40 Share Posted yesterday at 16:40 5 hours ago, Sibierski said: Will always be a premium because the resale value is regularly high and top sides will always want good English players for the HG quota. Scamacca was £30m rising to £35m for West Ham other season. So would also argue back that it’s just not English players that are overpriced. Scamacca had some sort of success before that, 16 goals in Serie A. 30 million buys you someone like Eddie Nketiah... Scamacca was overpriced in the end, but he at least is an Italy international. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted yesterday at 17:24 Share Posted yesterday at 17:24 Scamacca also had success after West Ham, leading the line in an Atalanta team that won the Europa League, scoring 19 goals in 44 games last saeson, which indicates he was easily worth that sort of fee West Ham paid. He just wasn't suited for a Moyes plagued West Ham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted yesterday at 20:28 Share Posted yesterday at 20:28 Or it shows the difference in quality between the 2 leagues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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