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4 minutes ago, Ben said:

I know nothing about these foreigners, so I'm 100% in the hands of the experts on here to tell me if they are any good 

I remember watching Abde in the Conference final vs Chelsea for the 1st time - stood out head and shoulders above everyone (especially in the 1st half)

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This is the point of proceedings where you're like "Fuck's sake, just sign someone. What are you playing at?" and then you realise the window doesn't open for two weeks.
We must be up to about 25 rumours so far. 

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38 minutes ago, Rafalove said:


 

 

Barnes has two years left on his contract which is the only reason I’d sell now. We’re in a place where we have to risks. We have a lot to do, and not a huge amount of funds.

 

Give him a year or two extension with an option of a third or something so he holds his value a bit longer. He's the sort of player a bottom half team would pay £25m for even at 30 as he'd still be good for double-figures. Could easily see someone like West Ham or Wolves fancying him for £28-30m next summer if they came back up, by which point the first new LW would be settled and you could then go for another one to compete. 

 

 

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All of these people might as well be FM regens to me, but I just want us to sign a first team player so I can start getting unreasonably excited.

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3 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

If we're moving more to 4231 then Ramsey might be considered more an option across the forward 3. And Willock should be move on ideally.

 

I'm hoping this is where we are headed, but not sure Eddie can bring himself to do it. With a more manageable schedule and the imperative that he wins early and often to avoid the dreaded November sacking, I'm guessing he'll stick with his tried and true. BUT...

 

I know it was a sample size of 1, but the front three midfield against WHU of Ramsey, Woltemade, and Barnes was poetry. No clue why he buggered up the lineup for Fulham, but a default, consistent lineup with those three and Bruno and someone similar (if Tonali leaves) in a double pivot type of role would be my dream. Could Miley play CM consistently (barring injury)? I feel like he could but you'd definitely need a Plan B with him.

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1 hour ago, Ben said:

I know nothing about these foreigners, so I'm 100% in the hands of the experts on here to tell me if they are any good 

 

Signings from the continent (leaving out Trippier as he was more of a known quantity):

  • Bruno
  • Isak
  • Botman
  • Minteh
  • Tonali
  • Thiaw
  • Woltemade

Only one question mark in that group (which is as much about fit as it is ability). When we go to the continent we don't really miss.

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1 hour ago, timeEd32 said:

 

Signings from the continent (leaving out Trippier as he was more of a known quantity):

  • Bruno
  • Isak
  • Botman
  • Minteh
  • Tonali
  • Thiaw
  • Woltemade

Only one question mark in that group (which is as much about fit as it is ability). When we go to the continent we don't really miss.

We didn't really miss on any of our domestic signings either other than last transfer window.

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Just now, Skeletor said:

 

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1. He helped us stay up by providing a focal point and doing over a direct rival. We also got a good chuck of our money back in the summer.

2. He was great on loan, but clearly the permanent signing didn't work out.

3. Free money.

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2 minutes ago, Skeletor said:

 

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Wood scored two goals that kept us up and turned out to be a really good player once we sold him on. 

 

Targett was signed for peanuts and provided roughly peanuts value as a rotation player.

 

Kelly was sold for a profit and again, turned out to be a really good player.

 

Don't think you can classify any of these as scouting failures.

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2 minutes ago, oldtype said:

 

Wood scored two goals that kept us up and turned out to be a really good player once we sold him on. 

 

Targett was signed for peanuts and provided roughly peanuts value as a rotation player.

 

Kelly was sold for a profit and again, turned out to be a really good player.

 

Don't think you can classify any of these as scouting failures.

 

I classify all of them as failures. The mental gymnastics people have done to try and defend the Wood signing in particular is exhausting. Add the ones from last summer and its obvious why Eddie's preference for PL players needed to be overruled this summer.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, oldtype said:

We didn't really miss on any of our domestic signings either other than last transfer window.

 

Also true, but those ones also heavily involved Eddie so it's problematic for the narratives.

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2 minutes ago, Skeletor said:

 

I classify all of them as failures. The mental gymnastics people have done to try and defend the Wood signing in particular is exhausting.


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I mean we literally made free money off of Kelly, even if you account for his wages. Even if he had never played for a single game for the club how is that a failure.

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If anything Wood and Kelly are manager failures, not scouting failures. Because clearly there were good players in there that we never figured out how to use.

 

(Osula would have fallen into this bucket as well if we moved him on last summer).

 

 

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You could argue (quite easily) that Targett has been a failure since he signed permanently. His loan spell was great, but since then he’s barely had a decent game.

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