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1 minute ago, Dr.Spaceman said:

 

Dent it in what way? We had players falling over themselves to sign for anyone but us when we were in the CL.

While I agree the narrative of last summer was now we in the CL we can attract bigger names and suffered gazump after gazump so being in europe for some players means nothing. Every player will have their own motivation for coming to a new club being part of something up and coming i suspect in earlier windows was one of the things which helped us get bruno etc. 

 

The issue is what are we selling to players? Is it now that we will develop you and not stand in your way of a move? Rather than we are a project on a trajectory to something great in the next 2/3 years?

 

Say player A has 2 bids one is us the other is a club in some form of europe. We dont pay the biggest wages/ we had a poor mid table finish to the season/ we didn't win anything. 

 

I am not saying no europe means no chance to all players but any advantage or selling point helps. Which is why I described it as a dent not a disaster. 

 

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3 minutes ago, nufcjmc said:

While I agree the narrative of last summer was now we in the CL we can attract bigger names and suffered gazump after gazump so being in europe for some players means nothing. Every player will have their own motivation for coming to a new club being part of something up and coming i suspect in earlier windows was one of the things which helped us get bruno etc. 

 

The issue is what are we selling to players? Is it now that we will develop you and not stand in your way of a move? Rather than we are a project on a trajectory to something great in the next 2/3 years?

 

Say player A has 2 bids one is us the other is a club in some form of europe. We dont pay the biggest wages/ we had a poor mid table finish to the season/ we didn't win anything. 

 

I am not saying no europe means no chance to all players but any advantage or selling point helps. Which is why I described it as a dent not a disaster. 

 

 

This is the only thing that matters to most players, we lost out last summer because Man Utd, Chelsea and Liverpool can all pay double what we can.

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nufcjmc

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3 minutes ago, Mattoon said:

 

This is the only thing that matters to most players, we lost out last summer because Man Utd, Chelsea and Liverpool can all pay double what we can.

You could go mega negative and say:

 

If you thought it was bad attracting players off the back of a trophy and qualifying for the champions league try having neither of those. 🤣

 

Luckily I think the club recognises that something needs to change in approach in order to get back on track so we do have to give them every chance to make it work but like I say we can't afford any more misses at the min.

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AyeDubbleYoo

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40 minutes ago, Mole said:

Also regarding Hopkinson and Wilson, they haven't really given you a reason to be hugely negative or positive yet. So I don't really get either being on either extreme. Just sit back and wait to see what happens because nothing has given anyone a reason to feel any type of way yet.


True but they are actually experienced professionals at their jobs and have had time to prepare for this window. So if you’re leaning any direction it should probably be that this window will be better. 

 

 

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Pablo

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It all feels kind of boring at the moment with few reports. I’m hopeful that means nothing is being leaked and we will just quietly go about our business without it being played out via twitter and other awful media.

keep hoping to wake up to an out of the blue report that we have signed some extremely highly rated 19-23 year old.

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5 minutes ago, Pablo said:

And also dreaming of a free transfer or 2 senior pro to add leadership and resilience, and squad depth.

 

I would like a veteran Striker, Robert Lewandowski, Karim Benzema, Iago Aspas, Duván Zapata, Arkadiusz Milik for example 

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BennyBlanco

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27 minutes ago, Pablo said:

It all feels kind of boring at the moment with few reports. I’m hopeful that means nothing is being leaked and we will just quietly go about our business without it being played out via twitter and other awful media.

keep hoping to wake up to an out of the blue report that we have signed some extremely highly rated 19-23 year old.


 

Wasn’t so long ago that we used to run a pretty tight ship with this stuff. Tonali + Isak being two examples. Nobody knew fuck all until it was done. Let’s go back to that please.

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Dr.Spaceman

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1 hour ago, nufcjmc said:

While I agree the narrative of last summer was now we in the CL we can attract bigger names and suffered gazump after gazump so being in europe for some players means nothing. Every player will have their own motivation for coming to a new club being part of something up and coming i suspect in earlier windows was one of the things which helped us get bruno etc. 

 

The issue is what are we selling to players? Is it now that we will develop you and not stand in your way of a move? Rather than we are a project on a trajectory to something great in the next 2/3 years?

 

Say player A has 2 bids one is us the other is a club in some form of europe. We dont pay the biggest wages/ we had a poor mid table finish to the season/ we didn't win anything. 

 

I am not saying no europe means no chance to all players but any advantage or selling point helps. Which is why I described it as a dent not a disaster. 

 

 

I think the Isak saga and Mitchell fuck up was a far bigger factor than European football tbh. The calmness with which we're seemingly approaching this summer should help more than say if we were fucking about again but in the Europa or Conference League. Just look at who Palace, Bournemouth & Brighton have been able to sign over the last few years for example.

 

There's the Bournemouth klaxon again, I know.

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1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:


True but they are actually experienced professionals at their jobs and have had time to prepare for this window. So if you’re leaning any direction it should probably be that this window will be better. 

 

 

 

Oh absolutely, I'm confident about things for sure.

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nufcjmc

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25 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said:

 

I think the Isak saga and Mitchell fuck up was a far bigger factor than European football tbh. The calmness with which we're seemingly approaching this summer should help more than say if we were fucking about again but in the Europa or Conference League. Just look at who Palace, Bournemouth & Brighton have been able to sign over the last few years for example.

 

There's the Bournemouth klaxon again, I know.

Its a factor but knowing wilson was on his last legs didn't need Mitchell to be here still to point that out. The rat may or may not have let the club know that season was his last so again him wanting to go may not have been that shock it felt in the summer when it happened. 

 

Taking away the person who pulls the strings and gets the deals done cannot be underestimated at all but those who would draw up the lists to bring to that person very much are here and remain so as others have said you praise their successes of which there are many but you acknowledge the failures too. 

 

Like I say no europe or europe will mean very little to some players but in terms of having the strongest hand possible having it is better than not. We are likely to never be in a position where we are the only bidder those teams you mention are still here and operating and are coming off the back of more successful seasons than us making them potentially stronger competition this summer in recruitment. 

 

Even if a player couldn't care less it's less games to ensure say a younger player is going to get game time. Every home fixture is worth what 3 or 4m in revenue lost? Even if the prestige or prize money of non champions league competitions pay far far less its still money coming in to balance the books/invest in recruitment etc. 

 

Being calm as you say us very easy to portray when the window hasn't officially opened and we have no concrete incoming yet. As mentioned before have to judge this new iteration of recruitment on its own merits thus summer. 

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BeloEmre

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11 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Probably scratch this name off , if these two are in for him:

 

 

Clubs and agents working hard to get the best deal for their players.

 

I see the source in this case is an Italian paper. Two English clubs trying to sign an Belgian player from the French league. Im sure some Italian journo would be the first to know…..

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KaKa

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5 minutes ago, BennyBlanco said:

Yup. Another summer of just getting out muscled. 
 

We really need to start putting down false trails and boxing a bit clever

 

No one even knows for sure which are our actual targets [emoji38]

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