mayubeproud Posted yesterday at 15:04 Share Posted yesterday at 15:04 I think we should sign a world class GK and a world class CB to upgrade our defense massively. For midfielders and forwards, I think almost every new signing in the last 4-5 years failed to make an impact immediately. Here is the long list: Bruno - fared the best but even he was benched for most of his initial half season Isak - made some impacts early on but not very consistent, got injured almost immediately and not an undisputed starter vs Wilson, becomes our star player later Wood - never good for us, but played well anywhere else... Gordon - had little impact upon arrival, had an excellent 2nd year and average thereafter Barnes - unconvincing at the beginning, then become a useful rotation option Tonali - supposed to be a marquee signing but spent more than a year to get into the starting XI regularly Osula - you may argue that he is young and raw, he clearly didn't make any impact in the first year anyway Woltemade - showed some flashes of brilliance but not consistent enough Wissa - terrible start Elanga - terrible start Ramsey - unconvincing start *Anderson (recalled from loan, like a new signing) - never made any significant impact with us *Miley (promoted from academy, like a new signing) - still not consistent but had some good moments Just splash the money to strengthen our defense radically, then punt a bit of money on some cheap young players who got a bit of potential like Osula, wait at least until 27/28 for them to make any real impact. I can accept random names like Aluso, Salou and Lusao as long as they don't cost more than £20m. Expensive midfielders/forwards rarely work for us no matter how good they were before signing for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted yesterday at 15:24 Share Posted yesterday at 15:24 17 minutes ago, mayubeproud said: For midfielders and forwards, I think almost every new signing in the last 4-5 years failed to make an impact immediately. Here is the long list: The overall point probably holds water, but you’re wrong about Bruno. Had 5 games on the bench to begin with then played virtually forever ever since. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted yesterday at 15:40 Share Posted yesterday at 15:40 32 minutes ago, The Bonk said: Me too and agreed, but I doubt that's the price he actually goes for. I've been following the news around Juve quite closely. Seems they're desperate for funds and moreso with them missing out on the Champions League. They apparently want to get quick cash for David as any money for him is pure profit as they signed him on a free. As he didn't quite fit their setup and so didn't put up the kind of numbers he has previously they can only ask for so much, the fee is consistently being reported as being somewhere around 30 million euros at the most. In contrast they are also trying to move on Openda too, but as they shelled out around 40 million Euros or so for him, that is more problematic as they are likely to take a big loss there as it went really badly for him at Juve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted yesterday at 15:50 Share Posted yesterday at 15:50 Surely David's wages will be too excessive for our structure, given he went on a free to Juve? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted yesterday at 15:52 Share Posted yesterday at 15:52 1 minute ago, TheInfiniteOdyssey said: Surely David's wages will be too excessive for our structure, given he went on a free to Juve? He’s reportedly on ~£180k Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted yesterday at 16:04 Share Posted yesterday at 16:04 Who has told Man Utd they're getting Lewis Hall for £50 million?! Seeing this popping up everywhere now with stupid thumbnails of him in a Man United kit. My God man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheikBoom Posted yesterday at 16:08 Share Posted yesterday at 16:08 1 hour ago, mayubeproud said: I think we should sign a world class GK and a world class CB to upgrade our defense massively. For midfielders and forwards, I think almost every new signing in the last 4-5 years failed to make an impact immediately. Here is the long list: Bruno - fared the best but even he was benched for most of his initial half season Isak - made some impacts early on but not very consistent, got injured almost immediately and not an undisputed starter vs Wilson, becomes our star player later Wood - never good for us, but played well anywhere else... Gordon - had little impact upon arrival, had an excellent 2nd year and average thereafter Barnes - unconvincing at the beginning, then become a useful rotation option Tonali - supposed to be a marquee signing but spent more than a year to get into the starting XI regularly Osula - you may argue that he is young and raw, he clearly didn't make any impact in the first year anyway Woltemade - showed some flashes of brilliance but not consistent enough Wissa - terrible start Elanga - terrible start Ramsey - unconvincing start *Anderson (recalled from loan, like a new signing) - never made any significant impact with us *Miley (promoted from academy, like a new signing) - still not consistent but had some good moments Just splash the money to strengthen our defense radically, then punt a bit of money on some cheap young players who got a bit of potential like Osula, wait at least until 27/28 for them to make any real impact. I can accept random names like Aluso, Salou and Lusao as long as they don't cost more than £20m. Expensive midfielders/forwards rarely work for us no matter how good they were before signing for us. Its almost as if players need time to embedd themselves into Howes system & demands... You know, like multiple players have already stated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted yesterday at 16:37 Share Posted yesterday at 16:37 4 hours ago, Rafalove said: Quote It seems unlikely Newcastle will push to bring in another striker, unless some of their centre-forwards leave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted yesterday at 16:46 Share Posted yesterday at 16:46 Would be pretty suicidal to go into the season with the 3 we have imo. Hopefully that’s bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted yesterday at 16:47 Share Posted yesterday at 16:47 47 minutes ago, KaKa said: I've been following the news around Juve quite closely. Seems they're desperate for funds and moreso with them missing out on the Champions League. They apparently want to get quick cash for David as any money for him is pure profit as they signed him on a free. As he didn't quite fit their setup and so didn't put up the kind of numbers he has previously they can only ask for so much, the fee is consistently being reported as being somewhere around 30 million euros at the most. In contrast they are also trying to move on Openda too, but as they shelled out around 40 million Euros or so for him, that is more problematic as they are likely to take a big loss there as it went really badly for him at Juve. That's a decent price if we could get him for that. Worth kicking the tires on and we could probably afford to offer more than the £100k-pw he's currently on to incentivize him. I was reading that Juve want Vlahović to stay and take a pay cut. They appear to be in a bit of bother, don't they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted yesterday at 16:47 Share Posted yesterday at 16:47 9 minutes ago, duo said: I dont think a striker is massively important but adding goals is. Id be happy with Osula and Nick if we had 15 goals coming from the wing and 10 from the midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted yesterday at 16:55 Share Posted yesterday at 16:55 5 minutes ago, The Bonk said: I was reading that Juve want Vlahović to stay and take a pay cut. They appear to be in a bit of bother, don't they? Yeah, it's a big pay cut too. Not sure he's going to agree to it, although it will depend on the kind of offers he's being given to go elsewhere as a free agent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted yesterday at 16:57 Share Posted yesterday at 16:57 10 minutes ago, Chicken Dancer said: Would be pretty suicidal to go into the season with the 3 we have imo. Hopefully that’s bollocks. One will leave I expect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted yesterday at 16:59 Share Posted yesterday at 16:59 10 minutes ago, TRC said: I dont think a striker is massively important but adding goals is. Id be happy with Osula and Nick if we had 15 goals coming from the wing and 10 from the midfield. We're fucked if we start next season with the strikers we've got. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted yesterday at 17:09 Share Posted yesterday at 17:09 5 minutes ago, Kimbo said: One will leave I expect. Think it'll be Osula if we can get good money for him. Who's going to take Wissa after the season he had? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted yesterday at 17:11 Share Posted yesterday at 17:11 1 minute ago, The Bonk said: Think it'll be Osula if we can get good money for him. Who's going to take Wissa after the season he had? Would be nice to ship him off to Saudi with wages fully covered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted yesterday at 17:12 Share Posted yesterday at 17:12 25 minutes ago, Chicken Dancer said: Would be pretty suicidal to go into the season with the 3 we have imo. Hopefully that’s bollocks. Makes sense though, we're not going to go into the season with four strikers on the books. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted yesterday at 17:14 Share Posted yesterday at 17:14 26 minutes ago, Chicken Dancer said: Would be pretty suicidal to go into the season with the 3 we have imo. Hopefully that’s bollocks. we were never getting another striker. Howe even said weeks ago we weren’t looking for another striker. None will leave. They’ll look to find a way of fitting Woltemade in and roll the dice on Wissa having a good preseason. We just can’t afford to taking a loss on either of them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted yesterday at 17:15 Share Posted yesterday at 17:15 5 minutes ago, The Bonk said: Think it'll be Osula if we can get good money for him. Who's going to take Wissa after the season he had? Don’t think we’ll sell him and even if we do the replacement will be another osula type. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPar Posted yesterday at 17:20 Share Posted yesterday at 17:20 (edited) Didn't I read that Hall signed a new 6 year deal a couple of weeks ago with quotes about how happy he was to commit his future to Newcastle? Oops 😬 that was Lewis Hall, my bad. Doh doh doh, Miley I meant. Edited 6 hours ago by MagPar I'm a massive plonker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted yesterday at 17:21 Share Posted yesterday at 17:21 6 minutes ago, Pixelphish said: Would be nice to ship him off to Saudi with wages fully covered. Think he stays to see if he can find form before that happens. 2 minutes ago, gdm said: Don’t think we’ll sell him and even if we do the replacement will be another osula type. Out of the 3, he's the only one with upside at this stage (not saying I want to see him go). Wissa and Wolt leaving, unless they both have unbelievable WC's, looks less likely as we'd eat hefty losses financially. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPar Posted yesterday at 17:24 Share Posted yesterday at 17:24 11 minutes ago, Pixelphish said: Would be nice to ship him off to Saudi with wages fully covered. PIF seem to help every club but us with this kind of financially astute career assassination. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted yesterday at 17:24 Share Posted yesterday at 17:24 Vlahovic anyone he'll be a free transfer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted yesterday at 17:28 Share Posted yesterday at 17:28 Just now, andycap said: Vlahovic anyone he'll be a free transfer? If he’s prepared to take a £300k p/w pay cut, it might be an option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted yesterday at 17:28 Share Posted yesterday at 17:28 7 minutes ago, MagPar said: Didn't I read that Hall signed a new 6 year deal a couple of weeks ago with quotes about how happy he was to commit his future to Newcastle? Pretty sure it was Miley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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