sanyi75 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 7 hours ago, r0cafella said: Not a good look This is the club's spin as well. Other clubs do medicals, we plan them Talk of overpaying and citing the Wissa deal, big difference between paying twice what someone's worth and 5m. The fact we not only overpaid for Wissa but overpaid to such a degree but fucked around over 5m for a player who we will book a profit on regardless tells me this club has absolutely no clue. I still can't understand how we got Wissa to sign such a contract. The fact that we bought him expensively can be explained to some extent, but the weekly salary he received from Brentford (25k per week) we pay him 140k per week plus a bonus of 35k. How can you do this, let alone against other players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 1 minute ago, sanyi75 said: I still can't understand how we got Wissa to sign such a contract. The fact that we bought him expensively can be explained to some extent, but the weekly salary he received from Brentford (25k per week) we pay him 140k per week plus a bonus of 35k. How can you do this, let alone against other players. Capology by any chance? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 1 minute ago, sanyi75 said: I still can't understand how we got Wissa to sign such a contract. The fact that we bought him expensively can be explained to some extent, but the weekly salary he received from Brentford (25k per week) we pay him 140k per week plus a bonus of 35k. How can you do this, let alone against other players. I'm not sure what your point is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki679 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Capology by any chance? That salary for Wissa has been widely reported tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanyi75 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 10 minutes ago, r0cafella said: I'm not sure what your point is? I think it's unrealistic, only the best players on the team should get paid that much, many of our good players (Hall, Miley, Livramento, Barnes, Osula) get paid much less. The other thing is that when we negotiate with players, we often don't offer nearly that much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago Just now, sanyi75 said: I think it's unrealistic, only the best players on the team should get paid that much, many of our good players (Hall, Miley, Livramento, Barnes, Osula) get paid much less. The other thing is that when we negotiate with players, we often don't offer nearly that much. Oh, ok I see what you mean. We were fleeced by him and Brentford but as they say. Willing buyer willing seller. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanyi75 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 11 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Oh, ok I see what you mean. We were fleeced by him and Brentford but as they say. Willing buyer willing seller. I thought, he should have been happy that NUFC wanted to get him, I think he should have accepted a much smaller weekly salary, for example double his salary there, because we will fail to sell him. Whoever signed this contract is ... That's why I'm afraid of this year's transfer window, because things are not going as they should. When we should hesitate, we sign such contracts at other times, and I still see the same player search mistakes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 1 minute ago, sanyi75 said: I thought, he should have been happy that NUFC wanted to get him, I think he should have accepted a much smaller weekly salary, for example double his salary there, because we will fail to sell him. Whoever signed this contract is ... That's why I'm afraid of this year's transfer window, because things are not going as they should. When we should hesitate, we sign such contracts at other times, and I still see the same player search mistakes. No disrespect or insult intended but I suggest you take what footballers say with a pinch of salt. He wanted to come here because we were the only club daft enough to pay the package. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanyi75 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 8 minutes ago, r0cafella said: No disrespect or insult intended but I suggest you take what footballers say with a pinch of salt. He wanted to come here because we were the only club daft enough to pay the package. Yes, you are right. Miley's attitude shows that she loves this club, we need more Miley. Edited 8 hours ago by sanyi75 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewel Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 11 hours ago, GeordieDazzler said: Only if we sign his brother too apparently Let's sign his gran and grandad too, just to be on the safe side. Surely, he couldn't refuse us then, could he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Jewel said: Let's sign his gran and grandad too, just to be on the safe side. Surely, he couldn't refuse us then, could he? Cracking suite in the Jesmond Dene Hotel lined up for them. Comes furnished with the mummified corpses of Tranquillo Barnetta and Brett Emerton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 8 hours ago, Kanj said: You can’t paint last summer’s overpay on Wilson’s underpay as a direct example. But you can absolutely say the club (PIF/Hop) have no fucking clue at this point. I suspect Wilson knows how football works and has been around the game long enough to know what can happen if you delay shit. He’s the DOF so this will fall on him but the CEO and NUFC Board (Jamie, Solis, etc) need to fucking have a word with themselves. We are owned by a sov wealth fund who own Aramco, plastered all over the World Cup and F1. Our Chairman can text or call heads of state, and he has shown up to our matches in person over the period of our ownership, he claimed one time we’d be #1 and his club has gotten blown out of the water by Liverpool, Chelsea, Man City an Man United - legacy PL clubs owned by billionaires who would give A LOT to have PIF money flowing through their other lines of businesses. Act like an elite club NUFC please. Stop allowing agents and clubs to take the piss out of us. We are all fucking sick of this. It’s been the majority of our entire existence barring small short spells of a manager or someone above getting it, only to be shown the fucking door. I have generally been very supportive of PIF because I still think they are our best chance of becoming a successful football club, but on this I absolutely agree. We need someone at the business end who is invested and can make things happen. How come Edwards and Iraola can act so fast and swoop in to take our signings while at our end we seem to be haggling over contractual minutae? From the outside it seems like PIF haven't delegated enough power to the DOF to make things happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago With every season eales forcing staverley out looks worse and worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBG Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago "Considering" moves for Fernandez-Pardo and Abde Ezzalzouli according to Douglas. Have made enquiries on Fernandez-Pardo already but Villa also interested. https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/newcastle-victor-munoz-transfer-targets-4488211?ITO=newsnow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 2 minutes ago, QBG said: "Considering" moves for Fernandez-Pardo and Abde Ezzalzouli according to Douglas. Have made enquiries on Fernandez-Pardo already but Villa also interested. https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/newcastle-victor-munoz-transfer-targets-4488211?ITO=newsnow Good that are considering targets during the transfer window ^ this is a joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago (edited) It's Douglas. Nice bloke but if he told me it was sunny today I'd immediately grab an umbrella. Edited 3 hours ago by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Can we talk about speed again? “It’s been stressed that they are working on alternative deals, although nothing is believed to be imminent.” - M Douglas They know the wage demands, they know the agent fee and they know the player valuation. They know the competition and hopefully they know they can’t lose out on priority targets again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 7 minutes ago, QBG said: "Considering" moves for Fernandez-Pardo and Abde Ezzalzouli according to Douglas. Have made enquiries on Fernandez-Pardo already but Villa also interested. https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/newcastle-victor-munoz-transfer-targets-4488211?ITO=newsnow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, duo said: Quality posting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Fyi I’ll happily applaud and praise them the minute they get this right but until then they have to prove their worth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Thinking of the Isak and Tonali deals and how they surprised literally everyone and I wonder if we don’t have anyone left at the club capable of managing the media as deftly as we did at that time. Every single one of our moves feels telegraphed well in advance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBG Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 13 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: It's Douglas. Nice bloke but if he told me it was sunny today I'd immediately grab an umbrella. Aye, he's much more likeable than the Hopes and Edwards of the world, but he doesn't seem overly plugged in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Cardigan Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, Deuce said: Thinking of the Isak and Tonali deals and how they surprised literally everyone and I wonder if we don’t have anyone left at the club capable of managing the media as deftly as we did at that time. Every single one of our moves feels telegraphed well in advance. I’m not sure how we stop leaks from the player side. Muñoz and agent were clearly very keen for it to all be out there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, Deuce said: Thinking of the Isak and Tonali deals and how they surprised literally everyone and I wonder if we don’t have anyone left at the club capable of managing the media as deftly as we did at that time. Every single one of our moves feels telegraphed well in advance. don’t need to tell anyone our moves anymore. Should stay within the deal team. Don’t allow it to leak. Deny everything that comes our way from press questions. I have no problem with a slow rebuild of the team in terms of our performances on the pitch, but I assume many of us were assuming and expecting a different approach this summer. ID and line up talent who want to be here - pay the release clauses or club valuations quickly and quietly. Methodical, calculated and move on to the other targets. The fans need to see that as much as the players we have on our books we want to keep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, Crimson Cardigan said: I’m not sure how we stop leaks from the player side. Muñoz and agent were clearly very keen for it to all be out there. All NUFC's fault for the deal not going through though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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