gdm Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago The last two summers have been humbling. Im switching off from transfers till something happens. Pointless micro analysing everything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian1881 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Cartel clubs won’t be able to buy every talented player out there. Honestly, I’m glad the rats with no honor are choosing the vultures — they’re probably saving us future headaches. I’d rather have players who actually want to play for us than rats in disguise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 1 minute ago, Adrian1881 said: I’d rather have players who actually want to play for us than rats in disguise. How about both?... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubteam Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 8 minutes ago, gdm said: The last two summers have been humbling. Im switching off from transfers till something happens. Pointless micro analysing everything Agreed signing out for a few days, maybe weeks, possibly months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian1881 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 1 minute ago, NE27 said: How about both?... A costly mistake, but hopefully one that teaches us how not to mess up the budget again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 1 minute ago, Adrian1881 said: A costly mistake, but hopefully one that teaches us how not to mess up the budget again. I agree mate, just having a laugh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago I thought last summer was growing pains. There was always going to come a point where on-field overperformance was hindered by off-field limitations, but now it's looking more like an identity crisis. PSR has taken its toll. Until our commercial revenue substantially increases, we can't compete at the top end of the matket on wages or fees, in turn making it more difficult to qualify for Europe. While the top shelf is off limits, it seems we're too ambitious to attempt to imitate a Brighton model, meaning we're pitching to a very niche section of the market. I'm comfortable with qualifying for Europe and winning the odd pot, but our owners do nothing to temper the impatient, with talk of best in class and 2030, its completely incongruent with where we are as a football club. The issue is players aren't daft and see this too. I have no doubt we can still attract good footballers, but we very much feel like a club unsure of itself, who is yet to establish an identity or its place in the footballing hierarchy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Good post. Some have argued that the ‘2030m stuff doesn’t matter but it’s indicative of a club that doesn’t know what it is, where it’s going or how it’s going to get there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 6 minutes ago, The Prophet said: I thought last summer was growing pains. There was always going to come a point where on-field overperformance was hindered by off-field limitations, but now it's looking more like an identity crisis. PSR has taken its toll. Until our commercial revenue substantially increases, we can't compete at the top end of the matket on wages or fees, in turn making it more difficult to qualify for Europe. While the top shelf is off limits, it seems we're too ambitious to attempt to imitate a Brighton model, meaning we're pitching to a very niche section of the market. I'm comfortable with qualifying for Europe and winning the odd pot, but our owners do nothing to temper the impatient, with talk of best in class and 2030, its completely incongruent with where we are as a football club. The issue is players aren't daft and see this too. I have no doubt we can still attract good footballers, but we very much feel like a club unsure of itself, who is yet to establish an identity or its place in the footballing hierarchy. I get all of this but we can still offer higher wages than 13 teams in this league. PSR is an obstacle yes, but we have done a shocking effort of navigating it. We haven’t looked for bargains or clever loans. We just pay full price and offer to double or triple the wages of mid table PL players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Just now, TRC said: I get all of this but we can still offer higher wages than 13 teams in this league. PSR is an obstacle yes, but we have done a shocking effort of navigating it. We haven’t looked for bargains or clever loans. We just pay full price and offer to double or triple the wages of mid table PL players. It looks like that's what we were trying to do with Munoz. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 3 minutes ago, The Prophet said: It looks like that's what we were trying to do with Munoz. Yeah let’s take the positives then, just fire a few more shots. Find more like that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 26 minutes ago, NE27 said: How about both?... That's a cracking photo, takes me back to last year when I thought he'd have 20 goals by Christmas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Ben said: That's a cracking photo, takes me back to last year when I thought he'd have 20 goals by Christmas This is his year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 5 minutes ago, TRC said: This is his year Lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 4 hours ago, Kanj said: I'd argue Munoz is a Brighton level player today. Liverpool coming in for him now has totally thrown this thing for a loop. By all accounts he has had a fantastic season in La Liga for a midtable team, was obviously highly rated by Madrid hence their clause, is capped twice and at the WC. Sounds like he's a level above your Mintehs, Adingras, Encisos or Yohannas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago I'd love it if we got Diomande, love it That would make me feel way better about Munoz even though it'll never happen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 5 minutes ago, kingxlnc said: I'd love it if we got Diomande, love it That would make me feel way better about Munoz even though it'll never happen You mean the diomande that Liverpool and PSG want? Are you a masochist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 6 minutes ago, kingxlnc said: I'd love it if we got Diomande, love it That would make me feel way better about Munoz even though it'll never happen We aren’t getting him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago So only four premier league incoming transfers to date and we have one... Wonder if everyone else are blaming Howe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 22 minutes ago, The Prophet said: The issue is players aren't daft and see this too. I have no doubt we can still attract good footballers, but we very much feel like a club unsure of itself, who is yet to establish an identity or its place in the footballing hierarchy. When we signed the likes of Bruno, Botman, Gordon even Isak we had a project to sell. Despite all this talk of 2030 we have seen zero signs of any substantial investment to achieve that goal. For months we have been told an announcement should be coming soon on a new training ground. Now is the time to announce it to help show current / future players that intent is real. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 2 minutes ago, RobsonsWonderland said: So only four premier league incoming transfers to date and we have one... Wonder if everyone else are blaming Howe? No body is blaming Eddie. Andy maybe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Isak had a project too. All of those guys got decent wage increases. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon No9 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Do we have any chance of signing Said El Mala? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 minute ago, Toon No9 said: Do we have any chance of signing Said El Mala? No. Spurs and Liverpool now linked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Toon No9 said: Do we have any chance of signing Said El Mala? Only if we sign his brother too apparently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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