NUFC Transfer Rumours

[The Prophet]

You look at the clubs we've lost out to though.

 

Real Madrid 

Chelsea

Man United

Liverpool

 

All of them can offer more in wages, a preferred location and an opportunity to compete for trophies.

[Wolfcastle]

33 minutes ago, Kanj said:

we thought last summers hijack and rejections were over. We just got thrown back into it and the details behind it are damning. Just no confidence in them. 
 

and for all the Howe out folks, how’s he meant to do the job if his top targets weren’t signed? Hung out to dry for the millionth time. 

Adapt like every other club outside the elite has always had to. 

 

 

Edited 6 hours ago by Wolfcastle

[nufcjmc]

2 minutes ago, Gawalls said:

I get that but it's Liverpool FFS, we're competing for a player with them and they'll win and ten times out of ten they'll win.

I hear you the sales pitch is stronger and easier for them than us. Not saying I know any better or that we definitely not already doing this but we have to act decisive with speed and strong offer from the get go and try and keep leaks to a minimum.

 

Appreciate its easier said than done. 

 

Part of the issue last year supposedly was lack of a team meant only 1 deal at a time. We need to be juggling multiple. Unfortunately we have alot of work to do before sales already the fact that we need sales to do it leaves us vulnerable. 

 

I dont blame anyone for worrying. 

[Gawalls]

Just now, nufcjmc said:

I hear you the sales pitch is stronger and easier for them than us. Not saying I know any better or that we definitely not already doing this but we have to act decisive with speed and strong offer from the get go and try and keep leaks to a minimum.

 

Appreciate its easier said than done. 

 

Part of the issue last year supposedly was lack of a team meant only 1 deal at a time. We need to be juggling multiple. Unfortunately we have alot of work to do before sales already the fact that we need sales to do it leaves us vulnerable. 

 

I dont blame anyone for worrying. 

I wonder if we're winning too high a caliber of player, no fuckers trying to steal Bournemouths signings and they find some good ones.

[nufcjmc]

1 minute ago, Gawalls said:

I wonder if we're winning too high a caliber of player, no fuckers trying to steal Bournemouths signings and they find some good ones.

The data and resources available to clubs now mean hidden gems are rare you have to bank on "bigger " clubs being stacked in that position or that there are multiple options in the position not just 1 stand out. 

 

End of the day the clubs who let you have the player know they have the financials to just get them from you later on when they more expensive yes but now tested in the league/more developed. 

[Gawalls]

1 minute ago, nufcjmc said:

The data and resources available to clubs now mean hidden gems are rare you have to bank on "bigger " clubs being stacked in that position or that there are multiple options in the position not just 1 stand out. 

 

End of the day the clubs who let you have the player know they have the financials to just get them from you later on when they more expensive yes but now tested in the league/more developed. 

Understood but others find them, Kroupi for Bournemouth £10m, 13 prem goals. Thiago at Brentford 22 prem goals, £34m. Both bought and nobody tried to steal them deals.

[nufcjmc]

1 minute ago, Gawalls said:

Understood but others find them, Kroupi for Bournemouth £10m, 13 prem goals. Thiago at Brentford 22 prem goals, £34m. Both bought and nobody tried to steal them deals.

Aye true it can be done its likely not sustainable as a sole approach. I think my point was big clubs dont need to concern themselves with the "punts" they were either not in need of the player or shopping in the market of that player 2 or 3 years further  along established and proven and worth considerably more but the fees are less of an issue for other clubs. 

[huss9]

anyone actually excited for next season?

honest question.

[Fak]

2 minutes ago, huss9 said:

anyone actually excited for next season?

honest question.

 

Not overly fussed.

[Gawalls]

3 minutes ago, huss9 said:

anyone actually excited for next season?

honest question.

Nope

[Stifler]

2 minutes ago, huss9 said:

anyone actually excited for next season?

honest question.

Not at the minute, but we are only something like 3/4 weeks out from the end of last season.

[nufcjmc]

6 minutes ago, huss9 said:

anyone actually excited for next season?

honest question.

Not really no was a slog of a season then straight into the WC felt like no break in football to miss it. 

 

If we can sell some of our shite and bring in enough fresh faces to make it seem we are trying to fix our issues and evolve/adapt/improve then that can  change quickly 

 

Yup am fickle as fuck 

 

 

Edited 5 hours ago by nufcjmc

[TRC]

I’m not but if we get 2 signings and King Wissa keeps scoring then I will be.

[Gawalls]

Just now, nufcjmc said:

Not really no was a slog of a season then straight into the WC felt like no break in football to miss it. 

 

If we can sell some of our shite and bring in enough fresh faces to make it seem we are trying to fix our issues and evolve/adapt/inprove then that can  change quickly 

 

Yup am fickle as fuck 

I don't mind admitting it, I'm one of the Eddie's run his course, we have a huge job to do and having him in is a mistake imo.

[nufcjmc]

15 minutes ago, Gawalls said:

I don't mind admitting it, I'm one of the Eddie's run his course, we have a huge job to do and having him in is a mistake imo.

Like a glutton for punishment I am in the Eddie has done it before he can do it again camp with a big dollop of cover all bases worry its a step too far for him to stop the rot completely 

 

We need to see change this summer and part of that starts with saying bye to a few Eddie may historically have argued to keep.

 

Bringing in new, hungry and keen to develop players who will compliment who we either do get to or have to retain.

 

Fear with 3 or 4 first teamers going its set for another season of ups and downs rather than recapturing the early takeover era spark.

 

 

 

 

Edited 5 hours ago by nufcjmc

[simonsays]

2 hours ago, vexred said:

I'd love for us to replace Tonali with someone like Tyler Morton. Proper number 6 with wide range of passing. Lyon need the money too. Not at the WC could be done quickly. 

One of the best suggestions I've seen.  I think he's exactly what we need - a progressive 6 - not just an engine who can run around all day.  Plus, he's English we can be pretty sure he'll fit in culturally.

[pubteam]

One things for sure, yet another transfer window is showing how much the game is rigged and it’s not changing anytime soon. They go on about the strength of the premier league and its global appeal. So strong that a few elite clubs get to dictate everything and we feed on the scraps as the elite pick our bones removing anything of value. Isn’t football great.

[Stuy_O]

I'm looking forward to the season tbh, I want to see what this club and ownership is made of when it's up against it. Its up to them to get a siege mentality going and prove they're know what they're doing and have a plan. Ditto the management and players. 

 

Clearly confidence will be rock bottom if we haven't strengthened properly, then we start poorly, and the manager gets binned with his legacy in pieces. Given how we've handled player recruitment you shudder to think how we'd go about appointing a replacement. 

 

 

Edited 5 hours ago by Stuy_O

[Teasy]

1 hour ago, Gawalls said:

I get that but it's Liverpool FFS, we're competing for a player with them and they'll win and ten times out of ten they'll win.

 

But we weren't competing with them for quite some time.  We had a free run at the player.  We pissed about long enough for Liverpool to decide they wanted him.  Once they did they acted decisively and got him.  We could have done the same and prevented that.  I'm sure some will say that even if we had activated his release clause immediately Liverpool would have just come in earlier.  But we don't know that at all.  If we make those mind of assumptions were just letting the club off.  Fact is they shouldn't have pissed about trying to negotiate a £30m transfer for their first choice left winger when the players release clause was only £36m.  Especially when he's replacing a player we just got £65m for.  It's penny pinching, £36m is nowt for a first choice left winger in our position.

[The Prophet]

We don't know that we had s free run at him mind.

[duo]

1 hour ago, Gawalls said:

Understood but others find them, Kroupi for Bournemouth £10m, 13 prem goals. Thiago at Brentford 22 prem goals, £34m. Both bought and nobody tried to steal them deals.

Maybe I'm being paranoid but I do feel there's a concerted effort the cartel to clip our wings.  We rarely have a free run at a player these days.

 

 

Edited 5 hours ago by duo

[Teasy]

1 hour ago, Sandrotastico said:

Clearly unstable, wetting the bed over a little red haired winger from Spain that's barely played many games and no one knew from Adam in May... lol

Agree, it would be nice to have incomings, but as it stands we don't know what we're getting in and no idea what we missed out on.
 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't know much about this player at all.  But I'd like to think that the club do.  I'm going to assume their first choice was their first choice for a good reason.  If we end up with a better player by accident, that's good shot term.  But it doesn't really bode well for the future.  Either way we missed out on our first choice left winger.  Seemingly because of penny pinching.  People calling that failure out isn't wetting the bed, it's not being delusional.

[Kid Icarus]

15 minutes ago, duo said:

Maybe I'm being paranoid but I do feel there's a concerted effort the cartel to clip our wings.  We rarely have a free run at a player these days.

 

 

 

Us being able/allowed to sign the equivalent of Bruno, Botman, Isak, Tonali, probably even Gordon feels unimaginable now.

[Kanj]

We’d absolutely get gazumped if we let any deal linger past 48 hours. There is 0

momemtum at the club. What exactly is the sales pitch? Sign for us and go to a cartel club? So if a cartel club comes in now why join us?

[RobsonsWonderland]

31 minutes ago, Teasy said:

 

But we weren't competing with them for quite some time.  We had a free run at the player.  We pissed about long enough for Liverpool to decide they wanted him.  Once they did they acted decisively and got him.  We could have done the same and prevented that.  I'm sure some will say that even if we had activated his release clause immediately Liverpool would have just come in earlier.  But we don't know that at all.  If we make those mind of assumptions were just letting the club off.  Fact is they shouldn't have pissed about trying to negotiate a £30m transfer for their first choice left winger when the players release clause was only £36m.  Especially when he's replacing a player we just got £65m for.  It's penny pinching, £36m is nowt for a first choice left winger in our position.

I thought it was reported we had agreed a fee and the players demands

 

The agent even telling us on the day he was going to sign 

 

Anything after that is down to them and not us as why would offering his release clause make any difference... His agent was clearly working on other deals in the background and had us as an option if all else failed.