Whitley mag Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, r0cafella said: What makes you think changes will be made? And what kind of changes do you expect? They’ll increase the limits as it’s not been raised to take into account inflation for a start. So many clubs appear to be on the limit, it’s not sustainable in its current guise and I don’t think the will to stop us spending will stand up for much longer in PL voting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 9 hours ago, joeyt said: @Optimistic Nut bring him home? His gaff in Medburn still isn’t sold. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, Whitley mag said: They’ll increase the limits as it’s not been raised to take into account inflation for a start. So many clubs appear to be on the limit, it’s not sustainable in its current guise and I don’t think the will to stop us spending will stand up for much longer in PL voting. Clubs at the limit: Forest, ourselves, Villa, Man United and Chelsea. Votes needed to pass a rule change: 14. So, 9 more votes needed to change the rule. I don’t see it happening and would urge you not to get your hopes up. Don’t get me wrong, the rules are absolute dogshit, the only things the current rules do is protect incumbents which is exactly why they won’t be loosened imho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, r0cafella said: Clubs at the limit: Forest, ourselves, Villa, Man United and Chelsea. Votes needed to pass a rule change: 14. So, 9 more votes needed to change the rule. I don’t see it happening and would urge you not to get your hopes up. Don’t get me wrong, the rules are absolute dogshit, the only things the current rules do is protect incumbents which is exactly why they won’t be loosened imho. I would add Everton to that list and think others will be thinking differently now judging by lack of spending. A major problem is aligning the PL and UEFA rules though, not sure how clubs wanting change and with ambitions of competing in Europe get round that, if you qualify Europe you could then find yourself having to slash spending, when it’s a time you should be looking to invest more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 2 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: I would add Everton to that list and think others will be thinking differently now judging by lack of spending. A major problem is aligning the PL and UEFA rules though, not sure how clubs wanting change and with ambitions of competing in Europe get round that, if you qualify Europe you could then find yourself having to slash spending, when it’s a time you should be looking to invest more. Aye Everton maybe, but they actually have no money, it isn’t just a FFP thing for them. Uefa rule are interesting thoug but I don’t think they should be taken seriously, I mean PSG have never had more than a fine despite paying the most ridiculous transfer fees and wage bills. Neymar, Messi and Mbappe ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 There are signs that, with the big inflation of transfer fees for players of average ability, that the spending limits need to be adjusted a bit. Most clubs need to be struggling. It doesn't have to be a big increase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Arsenal also in that mix after Havertz and Rice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, Nucasol said: Arsenal also in that mix after Havertz and Rice. Fucking hell, how did I miss little plucky Arsenal and Lego head the underdogs who have spend big since they appointed him. That being said, I still don’t think loosening benefits most of these teams, if you are them the last thing you want to do is give upstarts like us more rope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 At the very least they need to increase the margin for error, create some sort of financial 'end zone' whereby once you're in it you cannot make any more transfers. A hard pass / fail line with a ridiculously high level of risk feels a bit too edge of a cliff like for me and surely goes against what the PL are pretending to try to achieve. They're basically saying it's okay if we relegate you and you struggle, but if you do it to yourself then tough titties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, Dr.Spaceman said: At the very least they need to increase the margin for error, create some sort of financial 'end zone' whereby once you're in it you cannot make any more transfers. A hard pass / fail line with a ridiculously high level of risk feels a bit too edge of a cliff like for me and surely goes against what the PL are pretending to try to achieve. They're basically saying it's okay if we relegate you and you struggle, but if you do it to yourself then tough titties. The fixed are easy and don’t require much effort or thought to be frank. I just don’t see a desire to do so, ultimately everyone wants to protect the position they have and weakening rivals is one of the strategies to do so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Yep, it's complete bullshit and they're sprinting towards the passionless cash cow that they're really after. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Here is the club's chance to make up for this underwhelming transfer window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 On the topic of sending our youngsters out on loan and Ndiweni staying relatively local by going to Annan Athletic. Have we ever had a successful loan move when sending our youngsters to a local club? n the past we've sent loads to Gateshead, Hartlepool etc but the most successful ones have been further afield: Anderson (Bristol), Longstaff (Blackpool), Carroll (Preston) Our outgoing loans seem to be generally disastrous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Was that the worst winter transfer window for all PL clubs in the premier league era? I can’t remember what they were like in the 90s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 5 minutes ago, joeyt said: On the topic of sending our youngsters out on loan and Ndiweni staying relatively local by going to Annan Athletic. Have we ever had a successful loan move when sending our youngsters to a local club? n the past we've sent loads to Gateshead, Hartlepool etc but the most successful ones have been further afield: Anderson (Bristol), Longstaff (Blackpool), Carroll (Preston) Our outgoing loans seem to be generally disastrous Dummett went to Gateshead, Krul to Carlisle. They both also had other loans a bit further afield in Scotland as well though. Most of the players we've sent on loan to Pools and Heed have never really had much chance of a future here tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) Tavernier went to Gateshead. Made a few first team apps at least. Edited February 2 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Surprised we don't use Gateshead more tbh. They're always skint so 2-3 from here would help them, they play a good brand of football so that'd help us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 2 hours ago, wormy said: Here is the club's chance to make up for this underwhelming transfer window. It's crazy how bad that move turned out to be. Stoke seems to have been the death of a lot of strikers over the last 15 or so years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Start early, what’s everyone’s thoughts on most important positions to target this summer ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, Dr.Spaceman said: It's crazy how bad that move turned out to be. Stoke seems to have been the death of a lot of strikers over the last 15 or so years. Their transfer strategy makes little sense, just seem to throw a lot of money around and hope something sticks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, SUPERTOON said: Start early, what’s everyone’s thoughts on most important positions to target this summer ? Striker, RW, AM, RCB. Not sure on DM. We’ve been linked with a few but it doesn’t seem like a position we’re prioritising Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: Start early, what’s everyone’s thoughts on most important positions to target this summer ? Left-back Centre-back Right-wing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, joeyt said: Their transfer strategy makes little sense, just seem to throw a lot of money around and hope something sticks Feel like they sign players based on reputation, bit of a lesser 2017 -2022 Everton about them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 2 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Left-back Centre-back Right-wing Need a DM as well, get all four and we'll be able to challenge top 4 again IMO. I'd like a really creative, quick goalscoring right winger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ9 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Start early, what’s everyone’s thoughts on most important positions to target this summer ? 1. Right wing/forward who can maybe play across as a 9 when needed 2. A Midfielder (not sure on the position but a ball player) 3. Centre back 4. Left back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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