Hanshithispantz Posted Sunday at 12:07 Share Posted Sunday at 12:07 1 minute ago, alexf said: That's what others are saying about Isak being valued £150m+ He's worth what he's worth to them and I think if I was them and clubs came calling in January when it's hard to replace and he's their best most important player I would be demanding atleast that aswell. Isak's among a handful of the best strikers in the world though, he's not worth £150m but if someone like Madrid want the best that's what they would have to pay. Good scouting should be able to find us a player of Mbuemo's quality for far less than £75m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted Sunday at 12:09 Share Posted Sunday at 12:09 Just now, SteV said: Because he’s a known entity. He’s played in the PL and internationally for years. If an interested club have a value of him now, that won’t increase because he plays a few games for Southampton. It's not known whether he can recapture his purple patch for me if he gets anywhere near that with a loan then he'll move no bother. Sitting on the sidelines isn't going to put him out there or get any form going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted Sunday at 12:13 Share Posted Sunday at 12:13 13 minutes ago, jonny1403 said: Or we somehow persuade Brentford to take the £50m in the summer instead and a loan until then. Would solve our FFP issues and Brentford are so well run it probably doesn’t make too much difference whether they receive the money in this PSR window or the next. Brentford have a chance of making European football this season and based on this season baring major injury his stock is continuing to rise not sure why they would help us out with a loan and a deferred payment makes no sense unless we are the only likely buyers come the summer which again seems unlikely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted Sunday at 12:13 Share Posted Sunday at 12:13 Just now, Dokko said: It's not known whether he can recapture his purple patch for me if he gets anywhere near that with a loan then he'll move no bother. Sitting on the sidelines isn't going to put him out there or get any form going. Alright, I suppose if he went to Southampton and started banging in loads of goals and looking great, that would probably increase his profile to any potential suitors. I accept that. But if I’m Miggy, am I moving hours away from my family in the hope of doing this at the worst team in the league who keep getting beat 0-5 at home? Doubtful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny1403 Posted Sunday at 12:16 Share Posted Sunday at 12:16 2 minutes ago, nufcjmc said: Brentford have a chance of making European football this season and based on this season baring major injury his stock is continuing to rise not sure why they would help us out with a loan and a deferred payment makes no sense unless we are the only likely buyers come the summer which again seems unlikely. Yeah I agree tbh, seems very unlikely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted Sunday at 12:16 Share Posted Sunday at 12:16 1 minute ago, SteV said: Alright, I suppose if he went to Southampton and started banging in loads of goals and looking great, that would probably increase his profile to any potential suitors. I accept that. But if I’m Miggy, am I moving hours away from my family in the hope of doing this at the worst team in the league who keep getting beat 0-5 at home? Doubtful. All depends on how serious he is about his career. So far from the failed moves I'd more likely agree with you that he'd rather stay put and collect his money, which he's entitled to. If it were me, I'd be doing everything I can to play, but we probably both a bit longer in the tooth than muggy, who doesn't seem to realise his career is a short one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted Sunday at 12:17 Share Posted Sunday at 12:17 (edited) 4 minutes ago, nufcjmc said: Brentford have a chance of making European football this season and based on this season baring major injury his stock is continuing to rise not sure why they would help us out with a loan and a deferred payment makes no sense unless we are the only likely buyers come the summer which again seems unlikely. This is, in a nutshell why the January window is so hard to do any deals. Brentford and Bournemouth will be thinking about themselves right now, how they can improve their own squad to try and get into Europe. Brentford would be basically giving up on that dream if they sell Mbeumo now. Id absolutely taken Mbeumo but if we're being realistic he's not coming here in January. Dibling on the other hand is much more likely, especially he's he loaned back to Southampton. Howe wouldn't be starting him or even giving him any minutes here this season if he did sign this month anyway. Edited Sunday at 12:18 by Mazzy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted Sunday at 12:30 Share Posted Sunday at 12:30 6 minutes ago, Mazzy said: This is, in a nutshell why the January window is so hard to do any deals. Brentford and Bournemouth will be thinking about themselves right now, how they can improve their own squad to try and get into Europe. Brentford would be basically giving up on that dream if they sell Mbeumo now. Id absolutely taken Mbeumo but if we're being realistic he's not coming here in January. Dibling on the other hand is much more likely, especially he's he loaned back to Southampton. Howe wouldn't be starting him or even giving him any minutes here this season if he did sign this month anyway. I mean I don't blame them at all if we had endless spending power paying 70/80m now might be a nice enough over pay to change their thoughts paying the going rate of 40/50m makes no sense to a club wanting to get maximum value for them. We would be equally fierce in our holding on to the likes of Gordon unless it was crazy money. Agree with most we need Mitchell to identify mbuemo elsewhere before he became mbuemo hopefully in the 15-30m bracket to stretch our funds and if these mystery players do come do well and want to move on there is good profit for us to go again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted Sunday at 13:07 Share Posted Sunday at 13:07 1 hour ago, Theregulars said: He also wears his socks down when playing well tbh He needs to pull his socks up, roll his sleeves up, dust himself down and go again next week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novocastrian Posted Sunday at 13:10 Share Posted Sunday at 13:10 We should just flat out state that we won’t sell any players to the ESL6. See how they like them apples. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted Sunday at 13:13 Share Posted Sunday at 13:13 1 hour ago, Dokko said: £75m for someone named Brian doesn't sit well with me. What if it was modern day Brian Robson or Laudrup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyUtd Posted Sunday at 13:19 Share Posted Sunday at 13:19 1 hour ago, Hanshithispantz said: Isak's among a handful of the best strikers in the world though, he's not worth £150m but if someone like Madrid want the best that's what they would have to pay. Good scouting should be able to find us a player of Mbuemo's quality for far less than £75m. Sort of agree with this but Mbuemo is a proven, premier league player. No risk at all. A player coming from another country/league might take a year to bed in with no guarantee they'll settle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted Sunday at 13:27 Share Posted Sunday at 13:27 1 hour ago, Mazzy said: I'm sure you've seen it mentioned before but the fact he's bald, people believe has a huge impact on how fans/media view him. Thinking he's 28/29 for one thing changed how you saw him as a potential transfer and I think alot of fans would think the same. Don't think it's the bald head which is putting years on, it's that combined with the santa claus beard. Shave the beard off and you shave a few years off IMO. I would make his signing conditional on him agreeing to take the Gillette to that man fluff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted Sunday at 13:39 Share Posted Sunday at 13:39 11 minutes ago, TRon said: Don't think it's the bald head which is putting years on, it's that combined with the santa claus beard. Shave the beard off and you shave a few years off IMO. I would make his signing conditional on him agreeing to take the Gillette to that man fluff. He’d gain a little extra pace too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted Sunday at 13:56 Share Posted Sunday at 13:56 16 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said: He’d gain a little extra pace too! Even if he didn't he'd look 15% quicker at least! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted Sunday at 14:02 Share Posted Sunday at 14:02 5 minutes ago, TRon said: Even if he didn't he'd look 15% quicker at least! And leaner. It’s all about the optics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BennyBlanco Posted Sunday at 14:09 Share Posted Sunday at 14:09 If there’s any value at this stage it’s at teams who aren’t performing anywhere near expectations and who maybe looking to rebuild for next year. Milan is a decent example. Tomori is a likely shout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted Sunday at 14:12 Share Posted Sunday at 14:12 (edited) 3 minutes ago, BennyBlanco said: If there’s any value at this stage it’s at teams who aren’t performing anywhere near expectations and who maybe looking to rebuild for next year. Milan is a decent example. Tomori is a likely shout. This is 100% a likely avenue of thinking. I always refer to them as "vulnerable" clubs. West Ham is another one, Kudus? Obviously this is not taking into account finance etc. Edited Sunday at 14:13 by STM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelrouser Posted Sunday at 14:25 Share Posted Sunday at 14:25 14 minutes ago, BennyBlanco said: If there’s any value at this stage it’s at teams who aren’t performing anywhere near expectations and who maybe looking to rebuild for next year. Milan is a decent example. Tomori is a likely shout. Do they have a left-footed rw that we fancy? Chukwueze maybe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted Sunday at 14:31 Share Posted Sunday at 14:31 17 minutes ago, STM said: This is 100% a likely avenue of thinking. I always refer to them as "vulnerable" clubs. West Ham is another one, Kudus? Obviously this is not taking into account finance etc. Arteta apparently keen on Kudus. Can see Wist Ham selling too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted Sunday at 14:32 Share Posted Sunday at 14:32 Mbuemo is like Mane at Southampton, about to enter that peak and era of goal gluts It's the one - even more so than Olise. Only issue, it's another very direct RW like barnes and Gordon - doesn't solve the creativity problem if Bruno was out for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted Sunday at 14:35 Share Posted Sunday at 14:35 There’s absolutely no chance we sign Mbuemo in Jan unless there’s a release cause. Otherwise it would understandably take a ridiculous Bid to get him, basically too much. He’ll to go someone in the summer tho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted Sunday at 14:38 Share Posted Sunday at 14:38 3 minutes ago, kingxlnc said: Mbuemo is like Mane at Southampton, about to enter that peak and era of goal gluts It's the one - even more so than Olise. Only issue, it's another very direct RW like barnes and Gordon - doesn't solve the creativity problem if Bruno was out for example. I know what you mean but I think Mbuemo creates more than Murphy and carries a far greater goal threat. That in itself would spread the whole play. How we manage without Bruno is a separate discussion I think (I’m not sure what the answer would be right now and moving forwards) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted Sunday at 14:39 Share Posted Sunday at 14:39 3 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said: There’s absolutely no chance we sign Mbuemo in Jan unless there’s a release cause. Otherwise it would understandably take a ridiculous Bid to get him, basically too much. He’ll to go someone in the summer tho Liverpool, when Salah goes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted Sunday at 14:40 Share Posted Sunday at 14:40 Just now, PauloGeordio said: Liverpool, when Salah goes. 👍 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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