NUFC Transfer Rumours

[ponsaelius]

1 minute ago, KaKa said:

 

Think Liverpool's success had more to with the players they managed to get in at much better value tbh.

 

Man United have been going big in proven the most probably, and have ended up in the dirt.

 

But Man United have also bought lots of young players from Europe too, that were supposed to represent value, that have bombed or not worked out. The culture of the club is all wrong and that's their biggest issue.

 

Buying from other PL clubs for a slightly inflated fee isn't bad transfer policy if you want to be a club that competes for titles. And to be honest with PSR squeezing the PL now there's a chance you might actually start to see that fees aren't that different.

[KaKa]

26 minutes ago, Keegans Export said:

I'd argue we're already past the Brighton model and we'd already found the middle ground - I used Bruno, Botman, Tino as examples where we aren't in the sub-£20m take a punt range but £30-35m on players who have experience in both Europe and decent domestic leagues. There should be enough data, eye-test or otherwise, to make a sound assessment on those players.

 

We also have the issue that whereas our first XI might only be a couple of players away, our squad depth is still miles off. If we want to be competitive in Europe and domestically we need improved squad players pretty much across the board. It's going to be hard to get the numbers we need if we're looking at £50m or more on Huijsen, Mbeumo etc.

 

Yeah, it's about finding value, which doesn't have to be some teenage kid necessarily.

 

The likes of CHO, Milenkovic, Kluivert, Gomes etc were really good signings of a decent age and experience from different leagues that were good enough and we're signed at really good value.

 

[Kaizero]

29 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

Funnily enough that Sindre Walle Egeli has been linked with us going back to the end of last year and it popped up again recently.

 

Would be a great signing, and that's me saying that with the added anti-own-nationality-player bias already added to the mix  If we went for Egeli over Nypan, it'd (IMO) point towards us having a quality scouting network set-up to spot and go for the (arguably) better and more first-team-ready player of the two – rather than do what the other "big" clubs look like they're doing; chasing headlines about youngsters.

[KaKa]

1 minute ago, ponsaelius said:

 

But Man United have also bought lots of young players from Europe too, that were supposed to represent value, that have bombed or not worked out. The culture of the club is all wrong and that's their biggest issue.

 

Buying from other PL clubs for a slightly inflated fee isn't bad transfer policy if you want to be a club that competes for titles. And to be honest with PSR squeezing the PL now there's a chance you might actually start to see that fees aren't that different.

 

Yeah, but it's those big fee signings that have screwed them over. They hardly ever buy at any kind of decent value. They even managed to overpay massively for unproven players.

 

Due to PSR we'd be even more screwed if we go down that route.

 

I think we need to be more balanced, especially as the squad on the whole needs improving, with European competition now also in play.

[KaKa]

5 minutes ago, Kaizero said:

 

Would be a great signing, and that's me saying that with the added anti-own-nationality-player bias already added to the mix  If we went for Egeli over Nypan, it'd (IMO) point towards us having a quality scouting network set-up to spot and go for the (arguably) better and more first-team-ready player of the two – rather than do what the other "big" clubs look like they're doing; chasing headlines about youngsters.

 

Yeah, it does seem our scouts tend to be on the right track a lot of the time, and it's something we need to take advantage of.

[Sean]

Did we really miss out on signing Maddison, Paqueta etc or did they miss out on joining us?

 

 

We are an attractive proposition to a larger number of players than ever before - in part because of the attitude of those who did join being up for the challenge - feels like vindication of Howe's narrow focus in terms of player recruitment (which I'll admit used to wind me up a bit).

 

 

Edited March 20 by Sean

[Erikse]

2 hours ago, NSG said:

 

 

Would probably a better signing, but I don't see him going for any less than what Palace wanted for Guehi last summer.

[54]

1 minute ago, Erikse said:

 

Would probably a better signing, but I don't see him going for any less than what Palace wanted for Guehi last summer.

He has a £50m release clause.

[Erikse]

1 minute ago, 54 said:

He has a £50m release clause.

 

Ah, that's doable. But that obviously means so much competition, and probably really high wages.

 

 

Edited March 20 by Erikse

[Dr.Spaceman]

15 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

Yeah, it does seem our scouts tend to be on the right track a lot of the time, and it's something we need to take advantage of.

 

Steve Nickson has done a great job for us overall.

[Sibierski]

We can safely rule out Hujsen. Far too much noise, and probably agent driving to get other clubs to make a move.

[Dr.Spaceman]

2 minutes ago, Sibierski said:

We can safely rule out Hujsen. Far too much noise, and probably agent driving to get other clubs to make a move.

 

I don't think this is necessarily the case, there's been a fair bit of noise around several signings we've made and then the Khusanov one, everyone knows we wanted him for a while and he chose Man City. If we sign Trafford in the summer that'll be another that we've publicly courted for what will feel like 18 months.

[Unbelievable]

15 hours ago, southernmag said:

Agreed, there are plenty more Huijsens in the sea. We need to stop being lazy and beta, picking them up for exorbitant prices a year after other clubs made their move.

There are not, which makes our decision to (presumably) not follow up on our reported interest last year so frustrating. Lad will likely be making his Spain debut this week ffs. We could have had a real, potentially world class talent on the books for the price of your average Championship player.

[KingArthur]

23 minutes ago, Sibierski said:

We can safely rule out Hujsen. Far too much noise, and probably agent driving to get other clubs to make a move.

And we cannot use 50 million on one player, when we are after GK, RCB, RW, Striker and maybe some other squad players.. We have no one to sell (hopefully) this summer, so we are not going to spend 200 million. 

[Sibierski]

Think we will drop £50m on a player, but on someone that’s playing at the top level International Team/Europe.

 

I won’t be surprised if noise comes out we will make a move for Guehi again around that price point. 

[janpawel]

Huijsen seems nothing like Khusanov in style or attributes, I'd assume we want a very specific profile to partner Botman long term. So don't think we will go for Huijsen imo 

 

Though he looks like he'll go to the very top 

[The College Dropout]

2 hours ago, McCormick said:

The only way to sustain buying and keeping the players we want is through success on the pitch. That will drive commercial revenues and allow us to try and match our competitors’ deals through APT.

 

The Brighton model has a ceiling and we’re already there. We need to break through before we lose more ground. I’m sure there’s a middle ground to be found but first and foremost we need to bring in the best young players we can (that can make a near immediate impact) or risk falling further behind.

 

 

 

Brighton themselves are doing this by signing the likes of Minteh.

 

A lot of our activity will depend on what European competition we end up in.

 

Ultimately, the price someone was bought for last summer doesn't matter. We sold Minteh for 4x what we paid after 12 months - yeh he played in Europe but he mostly played at a lower level. He's a brilliant signing at £8m. At £30m, first year in the PL at 20 - he's playing to the level you would expect just about. The bit of pedigree and trajectory he has justifies the fee. Same with Huijsen potentially.

 

I'm pretty confident we'll land a good CB whoever we eventually sign. There's a lot of talent out there.

 

It's RW that's a bit more tricky and more varied profiles.

[SUPERTOON]

 

[duo]

1 hour ago, Sibierski said:

We can safely rule out Hujsen. Far too much noise, and probably agent driving to get other clubs to make a move.

Eddie Bournemouth connection though 

[Colos Short and Curlies]

1 hour ago, KingArthur said:

And we cannot use 50 million on one player, when we are after GK, RCB, RW, Striker and maybe some other squad players.. We have no one to sell (hopefully) this summer, so we are not going to spend 200 million. 

with Champs League and £20-£30 of outgoings we might 

[KingArthur]

3 minutes ago, Colos Short and Curlies said:

with Champs League and £20-£30 of outgoings we might 

Very much doubt it. We would be in trouble again very soon. We really need a squad anyway, with RCB and RW being top players. Doesn't mean they have to be 50-60 million players still. We don't have a single very good keeper (Pope and Dubs are okay), our defence is aging, our 2nd striker is leaving on a free, we don't have a right winger of any sort except Murphy... Our squad was too thin last time in the UCL, let's not make same mistake again.

[The Prophet]

23 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

 

 

Would be a big fan of that, he's very underrated.

[southernmag]

I could probably handle Collins for a lowish fee.

[JT24]

Yes, I like Collins as an option. 

[Jackie Broon]

1 hour ago, Sean said:

Did we really miss out on signing Maddison, Paqueta etc or did they miss out on joining us?

 

 

We are an attractive proposition to a larger number of players than ever before - in part because of the attitude of those who did join being up for the challenge - feels like vindication of Howe's narrow focus in terms of player recruitment (which I'll admit used to wind me up a bit).

 

 

 

 

It really looks like they missed out and we dodged a bullet on both of them.