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[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

Kinda feel the prices Bournemouth pay are predicated on not keeping the players. 

[SteV]

4 minutes ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said:

Kinda feel the prices Bournemouth pay are predicated on not keeping the players. 

Exactly. It’s great having that kind of strategy, especially for a club of their size, but it’s yet to get anyone to break into the CL places.

 

Only teams to have done that are ourselves and Villa, who have been able to invest more heavily on ‘established’ talent.

 

That’s not to dismiss that method completely, there’s clearly merit in getting some players from that kind of market, but if it’s going to be your predominant market, don’t expect it to get you to the real top end.

[KaKa]

8 minutes ago, SteV said:

Exactly. It’s great having that kind of strategy, especially for a club of their size, but it’s yet to get anyone to break into the CL places.

 

Only teams to have done that are ourselves and Villa, who have been able to invest more heavily on ‘established’ talent.

 

That’s not to dismiss that method completely, there’s clearly merit in getting some players from that kind of market, but if it’s going to be your predominant market, don’t expect it to get you to the real top end.

 

We are still at the early stages of smaller clubs now being able to attract higher calibre managers and also now having the infrastructure behind the scenes to identify and scout players all over the globe.

 

We are going to increasingly see these clubs start to embarrass the so called bigger clubs going forward. Especially those throwing hundreds of millions at them for players they signed for a tenth of that. Thereby building those clubs up further.

 

I really hope we continue to build up our scouting and recruitment and get better and better at identifying players we like within a budget that allows us to build up our squad to challenge long term.

 

If we fall into the trap of just spending much more money on players we have waited on other clubs to discover first, it's not going to go well at all IMO.

 

Finding good players at a value suited to the club building a strong squad, doesn't mean just buying inexperienced kids either, neither does it mean these players will need years to adjust. These are always assumptions that are made when these sorts of things are discussed.

[tarie4]

26 minutes ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said:

Kinda feel the prices Bournemouth pay are predicated on not keeping the players. 

I respectfully disagree; while we were linked with Huijsen last summer, we opted for more established players like Guehi. Similarly, Kerkez was linked with Arsenal and Barcelona, but they ultimately decided against pursuing him in favor of more established players. 

[tarie4]

1 minute ago, KaKa said:

 

 

 

I really hope we continue to build up our scouting and recruitment and get better and better at identifying players we like within a budget that allows us to build up our squad to challenge long term.

 

If we fall into the trap of just spending much more money on players we have waited on other clubs to discover first, it's not going to go well at all IMO.

 

 

Case in point last summer were we ended up losing Minteh and Anderson.  In the FFP world we have to trade smart. 

 

We already have some top class talent on the books already, a few shrewd buys at decent prices will firm up our starting 11 and squad. Blowing 50 million on a defender or winger will not bode well for us in terms of FFP.

[KaKa]

5 minutes ago, tarie4 said:

Case in point last summer were we ended up losing Minteh and Anderson.  In the FFP world we have to trade smart. 

 

We already have some top class talent on the books already, a few shrewd buys at decent prices will firm up our starting 11 and squad. Blowing 50 million on a defender or winger will not bode well for us in terms of FFP.

 

I'm not even against going big on the odd players, provided it makes sense within whatever budget we have, and so it doesn't come at the expense of strengthening the team/squad in other areas.

 

This is the key thing for me.

[huss9]

47 minutes ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said:

Kinda feel the prices Bournemouth pay are predicated on not keeping the players. 

and offering them first team football

[SteV]

I would imagine Huijsen opted for Bournemouth because they agreed to a (non-prohibitive) release clause. That’s no good for us.

[janpawel]

Wonder if we will aggressively target transfers related to clubs with FFP issues who need to sell by the June end date 

 

Without thinking to hard about it, I'd imagine Chelsea, Everton, Villa, and Forest might need to? 

[ponsaelius]

It wasn't just us - lots of big clubs looked at Huijsen last summer. The lad ended up going to Bournemouth for a large part because he was guaranteed to play every single game at 19 and because the club were happy to include a very achievable release clause for him to make a big move 1-2 years down the line. That is their transfer model - as it is with Brighton.

 

As much as we can't afford to make every player a sure thing first starter, we equally can't afford to 'spread our bets' on a load of cheaper development project players on the promise of them moving on from us.

 

It's a fine balance to strike and I think people have been overly critical of our transfer policy at times given our hit rate.

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

47 minutes ago, tarie4 said:

I respectfully disagree; while we were linked with Huijsen last summer, we opted for more established players like Guehi. Similarly, Kerkez was linked with Arsenal and Barcelona, but they ultimately decided against pursuing him in favor of more established players. 

You may well be right, it may also be the case that other players were genuinely preferred and the links to Barca and Arsenal were tenuous. It’s difficult to draw firm conclusions from transfer negotiations because they are opaque. 

[Rafalove]

Seems odd we were willing to pay so much for Guehi, yet seemingly couldn’t afford this lad last summer.

[rebelrouser]

27 minutes ago, janpawel said:

Without thinking to hard about it, I'd imagine Chelsea, Everton, Villa, and Forest might need to? 

Chelsea have Madueke, Cole Palmer, and Pedro Neto who can all play RW.  I wonder if they try to sell one? I would still take Madueke although we had to a chance to get a bargain when they bought Neto but we were chasing Guehi.  

[Mikky]

15 minutes ago, rebelrouser said:

Chelsea have Madueke, Cole Palmer, and Pedro Neto who can all play RW.  I wonder if they try to sell one? I would still take Madueke although we had to a chance to get a bargain when they bought Neto but we were chasing Guehi.  

They have Sancho (potentially no purchase) Esstevio, Sterling and Quenda to come 

[ponsaelius]

From what I've read it seems likely Everton will bite the bullet in selling Branthwaite to fund a bit of a squad rebuild.

 

Wouldn't be at all surprised if we considered him. 

[r0cafella]

18 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

From what I've read it seems likely Everton will bite the bullet in selling Branthwaite to fund a bit of a squad rebuild.

 

Wouldn't be at all surprised if we considered him. 

Left footed isn't he? 

[MagPar]

According to a rag in Spain, Isak would be open to a move to Barcelona but would prefer Liverpool. Hopefully that's just bullpoop.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

21 minutes ago, MagPar said:

According to a rag in Spain, Isak would be open to a move to Barcelona but would prefer Liverpool. Hopefully that's just bullpoop.

It is. 

[Gaztoon]

150m to barca

200m for Liverpool 

[Skeletor]

5 minutes ago, Gaztoon said:

150m £250m to barca

200m Add £50m more every time we agree a price to Liverpool and repeat the cycle

 

[ponsaelius]

1 hour ago, r0cafella said:

Left footed isn't he? 

 

Completely two footed IMO.

[KennyUtd]

4 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

 

Completely two footed IMO.

Only once a game though...

[KennyUtd]

1 hour ago, ponsaelius said:

From what I've read it seems likely Everton will bite the bullet in selling Branthwaite to fund a bit of a squad rebuild.

 

Wouldn't be at all surprised if we considered him. 

He's Manchester bound I think. The shite half, unfortunately for him.

[GeordieDazzler]

The BBC Gossip Column used to be mainly half decent sources (or at least established papers). It’s now just the absolute worst Spanish gossip rags and random websites posting clickbait. 

[The Prophet]

Shite source, but a rumour is a rumour.