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1 hour ago, The Prophet said:

 

Now do the PSR position of each.

PSR position has nothing to do it with it. Burnley are in the same PSR position as us maybe even worse off and they have 6 players IN already. The intention of my original post was to show the teams that finished above us last season have strengthened while we have done nothing. Hopefully that changes, very soon.

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1 minute ago, WinstonFC said:

PSR position has nothing to do it with it. Burnley are in the same PSR position as us maybe even worse off and they have 6 players IN already. The intention of my original post was to show the teams that finished above us last season have strengthened while we have done nothing. Hopefully that changes, very soon.

 

PSR position has everything to do with it.

 

Look at the cost of Burnley's six signings.

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1 hour ago, PauloGeordio said:

Not if they can be replaced. Longstaff is a fringe player at best and would provide pure profit. Willock is a shadow of his former self and injuries haven’t done his ability or confidence any favours. IF they could be replaced by potential let’s do it. I’m sure wor Eddie will have a plan either way. 

Willock is an issue I agree, but I'd just keep Longstaff rather than make more work for ourselves and attempt to replace him. Hes home grown and already integrated into the club/squad.

 

 

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We don’t sign players just for the sake of it as every purchase has a long term financial impact. We’ll keep pushing for the targets we believe will drastically improve the squad and that’s a slow process 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, WinstonFC said:

PSR position has nothing to do it with it. Burnley are in the same PSR position as us maybe even worse off and they have 6 players IN already. The intention of my original post was to show the teams that finished above us last season have strengthened while we have done nothing. Hopefully that changes, very soon.


We could probably buy 6 players for a few million each like, but I’m not sure they’d help us finish in the top 4. 

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5 minutes ago, WinstonFC said:

PSR position has nothing to do it with it. Burnley are in the same PSR position as us maybe even worse off and they have 6 players IN already. The intention of my original post was to show the teams that finished above us last season have strengthened while we have done nothing. Hopefully that changes, very soon.

 

Burnley have a much larger pool of players they can look at who will improve them. The pool who will improve us is much smaller.

 

Not saying we can't do more and do it faster, but it's not a fair comparison.

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5 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:


We could probably buy 6 players for a few million each like, but I’m not sure they’d help us finish in the top 4. 

You're talking to someone who thinks we should sign Jamie Vardy.

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Just now, The Prophet said:

 

PSR position has everything to do with it.

 

Look at the cost of Burnley's six signings.

How can PSR position have anything to do with it when Howe himself confirmed the club doesnt fear PSR incursions. Cost of Burnelys six signings is irrelevant, the fact that they got 6 players in under the same PSR constraints is relevant. Starting to get tired of this PSR excuse ballocks now. Fact is everyone who finished above us has strengthened by this stage except us.

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2 minutes ago, WinstonFC said:

How can PSR position have anything to do with it when Howe himself confirmed the club doesnt fear PSR incursions. Cost of Burnelys six signings is irrelevant, the fact that they got 6 players in under the same PSR constraints is relevant. Starting to get tired of this PSR excuse ballocks now. Fact is everyone who finished above us has strengthened by this stage except us.

 

It's been explained so many times, I'm not sure if you're being genuine or not.

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2 hours ago, WinstonFC said:

You want me to compare with Brighton, Burnley, Sunderland, Spurs instead? 

Please do. Sunderland & Burnley have bought a bunch of £20m & £30m players we are looking in the market of £50/£60m players massive difference. You clearly don’t understand how PSR works 

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10 minutes ago, WinstonFC said:

How can PSR position have anything to do with it when Howe himself confirmed the club doesnt fear PSR incursions. Cost of Burnelys six signings is irrelevant, the fact that they got 6 players in under the same PSR constraints is relevant. Starting to get tired of this PSR excuse ballocks now. Fact is everyone who finished above us has strengthened by this stage except us.


Again it’s a different market of player. We could easily have bought 3 or 4 £20m players so please you but they wouldn’t improve us. We are shopping in a higher market which costs more which has more impact on our PSR. I’m not quite sure what you don’t understand about that 

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4 minutes ago, SteV said:

Is that a serious question?

Yes it is cos teams above us have got players in and we havent. Why are people going on like we only have enough PSR room for one player lmao. We could very easily get 4 players in that will strengthen the squad.

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We’re bidding big money for players so it’s definitely there to be spent. Why we can’t complete even 1 signing in 7 weeks is the interesting part.
 

We’ll find out soon enough what Howe thinks of our activity and ultimately his opinion is the only one that really matters.

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1 minute ago, WinstonFC said:

Yes it is cos teams above us have got players in and we havent. Why are people going on like we only have enough PSR room for one player lmao. We could very easily get 4 players in that will strengthen the squad.

Do you seriously not get it ? Genuine question 

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1 minute ago, Ellis H said:

We’re bidding big money for players so it’s definitely there to be spent. Why we can’t complete even 1 signing in 7 weeks is the interesting part.
 

We’ll find out soon enough what Howe thinks of our activity and ultimately his opinion is the only one that really matters.

It hasn't been 7 weeks, though. Signing new players is very much like making love to a beautiful woman - you have to take your time. Make her feel special. 

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5 minutes ago, gdm said:


Again it’s a different market of player. We could easily have bought 3 or 4 £20m players so please you but they wouldn’t improve us. We are shopping in a higher market which costs more which has more impact on our PSR. I’m not quite sure what you don’t understand about that 

Bullsh1t. We could very easily bring in 2 maybe 3 50-60m players this window. Baffling where all this PSR scare mongering comes from. Our rivals have got business done early, its got fck all to do with PSR and everything to do with incompetence. Hopefully it changes soon.

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Just now, WinstonFC said:

Yes it is cos teams above us have got players in and we havent. Why are people going on like we only have enough PSR room for one player lmao. We could very easily get 4 players in that will strengthen the squad.

Not seen anyone say we’ve only got PSR room for one player? 
 

I suspect by the end of the window we will have four players that strengthen the squad. Those players won’t be on a level that Burnley or Sunderland have buying though.

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Just now, Ellis H said:

We’re bidding big money for players so it’s definitely there to be spent. Why we can’t complete even 1 signing in 7 weeks is the interesting part.
 

We’ll find out soon enough what Howe thinks of our activity and ultimately his opinion is the only one that really matters.

We have a budget to spread across 5 or 6 players which means bidding and basically haggling for the best deal to therefor allocate money elsewhere. We could easily whack down £60m for Elanga which would leave us short elsewhere. It’s a game of patience. Also why does it always have to be on us? Stories have came out Forest changed the goal posts and wanted a sell on clause added in and also reports that Burnley have also moved the goal posts on the Trafford deal

 

lets also not forget we bid on Delep, Mbeumo & Pedro and they all chose to go elsewhere 

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Just now, Pablo123 said:

It hasn't been 7 weeks, though. Signing new players is very much like making love to a beautiful woman - you have to take your time. Make her feel special. 


You’re right. It’s actually been a lot longer if you include the preparation for this window.

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Just now, SteV said:

Not seen anyone say we’ve only got PSR room for one player? 
 

I suspect by the end of the window we will have four players that strengthen the squad. Those players won’t be on a level that Burnley or Sunderland have buying though.

Then why are you bringing PSR into it. My original post showed the incomings of all the teams that finished above us last year with us having none at this stage. 

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Feels cruel at this point. I think we’re trying but god this is absolutely fucking tedious and frustrating. Might just go dark and not look at anything for a few days [emoji38]

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2 minutes ago, WinstonFC said:

Bullsh1t. We could very easily bring in 2 maybe 3 50-60m players this window. Baffling where all this PSR scare mongering comes from. Our rivals have got business done early, its got fck all to do with PSR and everything to do with incompetence. Hopefully it changes soon.

PSR is a real thing, but Im not sure I would put our lack of tempo down to just the PSR.

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4 minutes ago, WinstonFC said:

Bullsh1t. We could very easily bring in 2 maybe 3 50-60m players this window. Baffling where all this PSR scare mongering comes from. Our rivals have got business done early, its got fck all to do with PSR and everything to do with incompetence. Hopefully it changes soon.

We could yeah but we need 4 or 5. Which means the money has to spread across those 4 or 5.

 

do you think we sold Anderson and Minteh for a laugh ? Or did we actually do what you are suggesting and overshot the budget which this time around are carefully managing so we don’t end up in that position 

 

you keep saying “our rivals” our rivals that sold hotels and women’s teams so they can afford to 

 

 

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Just now, nufc123 said:

PSR is a real thing, but Im not sure I would put our lack of tempo down to just the PSR.

Of course it is but people going on like PSR is the reason for us being slow is laughable. 

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