andyc35i Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 That’s why we need to look for an alternative in style. Anderson is a solid PL player, but he doesn’t get in the team ahead of Schar for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Rich said: Is 27 old for a centre-back these days? No but it’s peak value. Sell him 2 years later, likely lose some money. And we always banging on about FFP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, madras said: I dont think he considered Joe a winger either. I think he does in his 433. At least that’s where he puts him on the team sheet and expects him to start when we are in possession deep. That’s how he scores those goals from the Schar diagonal. He’s in a LW position. Willock doesn’t make those runs because he’s not in position. Once we have settled possession sure Willock runs up there and stays there. He’s a little cuter with his dribbling than Joe in tight spaces can wriggle past a defender. Because of his physicality I think Howe considers Joelinton a better option in 2 man midfield pivot as he’s more of a defensive presence. But when they both start JoeW is the nominal LCM and Joelinton nominal LW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: I think he does in his 433. At least that’s where he puts him on the team sheet and expects him to start when we are in possession deep. That’s how he scores those goals from the Schar diagonal. He’s in a LW position. Willock doesn’t make those runs because he’s not in position. Once we have settled possession sure Willock runs up there and stays there. He’s a little cuter with his dribbling than Joe in tight spaces can wriggle past a defender. Because of his physicality I think Howe considers Joelinton a better option in 2 man midfield pivot as he’s more of a defensive presence. But when they both start JoeW is the nominal LCM and Joelinton nominal LW. He maybe did when we had Maxi playing but when he wasn't and he and Joe held down the left hand, side they were a lot more fluid, interchanging loads to the point where you couldn't really say who was wide and who was more central. Don't expect it to happen when Barnes plays though. Edited August 9, 2023 by madras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: No but it’s peak value. Sell him 2 years later, likely lose some money. And we always banging on about FFP. We also like to go about 'balance' a lot. So don't think they're necessarily against signing someone with the idea that they're likely going to be there for the back 9 of their career, rather than with half an eye on sell on value. As long as we don't make a habit of making multiple signings in that bracket per window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, sushimonster85 said: We also like to go about 'balance' a lot. So don't think they're necessarily against signing someone with the idea that they're likely going to be there for the back 9 of their career, rather than with half an eye on sell on value. As long as we don't make a habit of making multiple signings in that bracket per window. Aye but we’ve not signed a player that age since the first window. And I feel like CB is a position where you can find good value. Schar being an example. And because I like Schar so much - I’d be happy going proper young like 20 and mostly used as cover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 3 weeks of the window left and there seems to be only one definite name (Andersen) floating about. Some tenious rumours about Solet, Amrabat and Zaniolo but I don't see any of them happening. Solet is young and quick but he seems so raw, not sure how ready he would be for Premier League. The other two is just nonsense I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 4 hours ago, Slim said: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 13 minutes ago, Mazzy said: 3 weeks of the window left and there seems to be only one definite name (Andersen) floating about. Some tenious rumours about Solet, Amrabat and Zaniolo but I don't see any of them happening. Solet is young and quick but he seems so raw, not sure how ready he would be for Premier League. The other two is just nonsense I think. What order of ability etc would you rate them in out of interest? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Has to be further Italian input, surely? Can't imagine the AC Milan "team manager" has genuinely only come here to facilitate Sandro’s integration? Capiche? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Not necessarily. He won’t be on much and it’ll be a small price to pay to successfully integrate and protect your 55m+ investment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 To be fair to Palace I'm not sure why they would or should budge on 40m for Andersen. He has 3 years left on his contract and is highly rated and in demand. Just approaching his prime. I think we can do better for that money but we do know he could likely slot right in. That might be worth the extra money ?♂️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Posters who say such and such a player isnt right, or too raw or not good enough are looking at a potential transfer wrong. They should be asking can Howe improve them. What can he do with a player who was never Bruced in the 1st place. Not a dig btw, more of an observation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 I love Schar. I want to be clear on that right now. However, Andersen’s better than him. He could play for the likes of Arsenal or Man City quite easily. Good on the ball, lovely range of passing, similar to Botman that he doesn’t ever really have to so much because his positional sense is excellent. some people think we should sign players who already play for champions league teams. It’s weird. I reckon we’ll get Andersen for a good price too btw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 (edited) Andersen is great, but another player with little pace. I want a quicker CB next to Botman. Edited August 9, 2023 by BeloEmre Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: I love Schar. I want to be clear on that right now. However, Andersen’s better than him. He could play for the likes of Arsenal or Man City quite easily. Good on the ball, lovely range of passing, similar to Botman that he doesn’t ever really have to so much because his positional sense is excellent. some people think we should sign players who already play for champions league teams. It’s weird. I reckon we’ll get Andersen for a good price too btw He's 27 though Spoiler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Just now, BeloEmre said: Andersen is great, but another player with little pace. I want a quicker CB alongside Botman. I want a pacey left back. CB’s will be ok Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Murphy had a good game generally against Villarreal, but it was his recovery pace in particular that stood out to me. It made me remember DeAndre Yedlin more fondly than I ever had before. Gets you out of loads of bother having at least one full-back that can turn the afterburners on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 1 minute ago, BeloEmre said: Andersen is great, but another player with little pace. I want a quicker CB next to Botman. Agree. Hes a very good CB and almost a Schar clone. But im unsure about going down the same route. Andersen passing will suit Barnes perfect, but we are slow at the back. Would be a solid buy, but think we need pace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Random link time. Alan Nixon linking us to Estudiantes de La Plata winger/forward Benjamin Rollheiser for 12m. Looking further into it, it was reported yesterday so sorry for the name didnt come up in the forum search though. https://www.transfermarkt.us/benjamin-rollheiser/profil/spieler/491704 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Just now, nufc123 said: Agree. Hes a very good CB and almost a Schar clone. But im unsure about going down the same route. Andersen passing will suit Barnes perfect, but we are slow at the back. Would be a solid buy, but think we need pace. My knowledge of world football is terrible compared to a lot on here, but how many teams have a rapid CB? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Just now, toontownman said: Random link time. Alan Nixon linking us to Estudiantes de La Plata winger/forward Benjamin Rollheiser for 12m. Looking further into it, it was reported yesterday so sorry for the name didnt come up in the forum search though. https://www.transfermarkt.us/benjamin-rollheiser/profil/spieler/491704 @KaKa thoughts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Shearergol said: My knowledge of world football is terrible compared to a lot on here, but how many teams have a rapid CB? Not rapid, but all our top 6 rivals got a lot more pace at the back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 5 hours ago, Slim said: Bring him home Bet he’s glad he turned us down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 1 minute ago, nufc123 said: Not rapid, but all our top 6 rivals got a lot more pace at the back. At CB though? Who are they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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