NUFC Transfer Rumours

[Vinny Green Balls]

1 minute ago, oldtype said:

I don’t claim to be a PSR expert but I assume Big Joe’s transfer fee is long gone from our books so his only impact on PSR are his wages, which probably aren’t too high. That’s exactly the sort of player the club might be content to keep around and age out gracefully, even if we end up not getting an outbound fee for him.

he's also more valuable to us than his market value, like Draymond Green to the Warriors.

[oldtype]

Just now, Vinny Green Balls said:

he's also more valuable to us than his market value, like Draymond Green to the Warriors.

yes, really not worth the cultural disruption to move him out just so we can recoup some money. He’s the sort of player that could stay forever and have a testimonial. 

[Taylor Swift]

Joelinton is the type of player Liverpool would sell for £40m and reinvest.

[Vinny Green Balls]

Just now, Taylor Swift said:

Joelinton is the type of player Liverpool would sell for £40m and reinvest.

we can't afford to do that for what he brings to our style of play. We're not Liverpool.

[BermyToon]

We will likely be without two strikers who had 100+ Newcastle goals between them. Two new strikers should be the club's top priority. Hard to imagine getting results next season with Gordon and Osula up front.

[Kooiman]

2 minutes ago, Taylor Swift said:

Joelinton is the type of player Liverpool would sell for £40m and reinvest.

Taylor, big fan of your work, but they just sold a mediocre academy defender for 30m. 

 

They'd be demanding at least 60m. That's part of the problem, Liverpool (and Chelsea sort of) are the new Man Utd. If they came through Melwood you can add a tax on that regardless of whether they're any good. 

[Taylor Swift]

2 minutes ago, Kooiman said:

Taylor, big fan of your work, but they just sold a mediocre academy defender for 30m. 

 

They'd be demanding at least 60m. That's part of the problem, Liverpool (and Chelsea sort of) are the new Man Utd. If they came through Melwood you can add a tax on that regardless of whether they're any good. 

True, prices have gone up. He’s turning 29 in a few days. He should be sold next year to a Saudi team. &nbsp

[toontownman]

Its approaching a 7/10 window if we get Wissa and Thaiw in.

 

If we can add a really class striker and decent central mid as well we could pump up to an 8 or 8.5m 

 

Time will tell on Elanga, who is the closest, but we haven't added a true world class player to the squad yet imo.

[oldtype]

8 minutes ago, Taylor Swift said:

Joelinton is the type of player Liverpool would sell for £40m and reinvest.

From a smart PSR management perspective, I don’t think it makes any sense to sell a 28 year old with basically no accounting hit to our books who is performing at a very high level in our first team.

 

Even if we got 40m for him, it would cost double that to get a younger replacement of similar ability, and that player would no doubt require higher wages.

 

PSR isn’t just about maximizing incoming transfer fees. When you have a good player who’s already fully amortized and playing on a below market contract, it’s okay to ride it out. 

 

 

Edited August 9, 2025 by oldtype

[Taylor Swift]

1 minute ago, oldtype said:

From a smart PSR management perspective, I don’t think it makes any sense to sell a 28 year old with basically no accounting hit to our books who is performing at a very high level in our first team.

 

Even if we got 40m for him, it would cost double that to get a younger replacement of similar ability, and that player would no doubt require higher wages.

 

PSR isn’t just about maximizing incoming transfer fees. When you have a good player who’s already fully amortized and playing on a below market contract, it’s okay to ride it out. 

 

 

 

He’s turning 29 in a few days. I would guess that next year is the last year we’ll get good money for him. We don’t have PSR room, we have to be ruthless with who we sell. 

[oldtype]

Just now, Taylor Swift said:

He’s turning 29 in a few days. I would guess that next year is the last year we’ll get good money for him. We don’t have PSR room, we have to be ruthless with who we sell. 

can you please read my post before you quote it  

[Kanj]

Be nice if we can sign an attacking style midfielder, striker in Wissa and get isak to stop sulking and rejoin the team. 

[Taylor Swift]

1 minute ago, oldtype said:

can you please read my post before you quote it  

I did read it! If we got £50m or £60m, would you be happier?

 

MGW’s release clause was £65m, he’s only 25.

 

My point is we have to recycle the money regularly until we build up the revenue base. 

[Kooiman]

5 minutes ago, Taylor Swift said:

True, prices have gone up. He’s turning 29 in a few days. He should be sold next year to a Saudi team. &nbsp

That's probably a good shout. We need to start doing this and test the water.

[Vinny Green Balls]

7 minutes ago, toontownman said:

Its approaching a 7/10 window if we get Wissa and Thaiw in.

 

If we can add a really class striker and decent central mid as well we could pump up to an 8 or 8.5m 

 

Time will tell on Elanga, who is the closest, but we haven't added a true world class player to the squad yet imo.

I honestly think Elanga could be. He's really young, has already had two pretty good seasons, and he is fast as fuck. If Howe can improve him, then we have a real gem.

[Vinny Green Balls]

We can't view some players the same as others. What Joelinton gives us is way more than what he is actually worth on the market. And he is around the peak years now.

[Big River]

not this shit again  anyone wanting to sell Joelinton is off their fucking nut.

[lovejoy]

2 minutes ago, Big River said:

not this shit again  anyone wanting to sell Joelinton is off their fucking nut.

Couldn’t agree more 

[bobbydazzla]

23 minutes ago, oldtype said:

From a smart PSR management perspective, I don’t think it makes any sense to sell a 28 year old with basically no accounting hit to our books who is performing at a very high level in our first team.

 

Even if we got 40m for him, it would cost double that to get a younger replacement of similar ability, and that player would no doubt require higher wages.

 

PSR isn’t just about maximizing incoming transfer fees. When you have a good player who’s already fully amortized and playing on a below market contract, it’s okay to ride it out. 

 

 

 

No offence dude because this isn’t aimed at you it’s aimed at PSR rules, but the very fact this sort of post exists is exactly why modern football is fucked

 

 

 

 

Edited August 9, 2025 by bobbydazzla

[oldtype]

9 minutes ago, Taylor Swift said:

I did read it! If we got £50m or £60m, would you be happier?

 

MGW’s release clause was £65m, he’s only 25.

 

My point is we have to recycle the money regularly until we build up the revenue base. 

 

Okay let me do the math for you.

 

Joelinton's transfer fee is already fully amortized so his only PSR hit is his wages, which I will guess are about 100k/week, or 5.2 m/year.

 

Let's say we sell him for 40m and bring in an MGW-equivalent at 65m, and amortize the latter fee so it hits our books over five years at 13m/year.

 

I'm assuming this MGW-equivalent would demand significantly higher wages. For argument's sake let's say it's 150k/week, or 7.8m/year.

 

The first year of this transaction the incoming fee hits the books all at once while the outgoing fee is amortized, so we have 40-17-2.6 = 20.4m in additional PSR headroom.

 

But in the second year, the incoming fee is gone so we actually have 15.6m less PSR headroom. And that continues for the remainder of the new midfielder's contract, so an additional three years after that.

 

Let's assume that Joelinton realistically only has three years left as our first choice CM before we have to replace him anyway, so anything after that is irrelevant. Even under that assumption, you are talking about 10.8m less psr headroom over that three-year period if we replace Joelinton now.

 

So by "recycling the money" we actually end up with less money than we'd have by just riding out his contract. Obviously there's some upside in that you've also bought that MGW-equivalent who may or may not be able to continue to play for us after that three-year period, and could presumably be sold again for more money himself. Still, the club could very rationally make the decision that this upside is not worth the risk of moving out a good player who is an influential part of the group, especially when it will actually cost you money in the short run.

[bobbydazzla]

1 minute ago, oldtype said:

 

Okay let me do the math for you.

 

Joelinton's transfer fee is already fully amortized so his only PSR hit is his wages, which I will guess are about 100k/week, or 5.2 m/year.

 

Let's say we sell him for 40m and bring in an MGW-equivalent at 65m, and amortize the latter fee so it hits our books over five years at 13m/year.

 

I'm assuming this MGW-equivalent would demand significantly higher wages. For argument's sake let's say it's 150k/week, or 7.8m/year.

 

The first year of this transaction the incoming fee hits the books all at once while the outgoing fee is amortized, so we have 40-17-2.6 = 20.4m in additional PSR headroom.

 

But in the second year, the incoming fee is gone so we actually have 15.6m less PSR headroom. And that continues for the remainder of the new midfielder's contract, so an additional three years after that.

 

Let's assume that Joelinton realistically only has three years left as our first choice CM before we have to replace him anyway, so anything after that is irrelevant. Even under that assumption, you are talking about 10.8m less psr headroom over that three-year period if we replace Joelinton now.

 

So by "recycling the money" we actually end up with less money than we'd have by just riding out his contract. Obviously there's some upside in that you've also bought that MGW-equivalent who may or may not be able to continue to play for us after that three-year period, and could presumably be sold again for more money himself. Still, the club could very rationally make the decision that this upside is not worth the risk of moving out a good player who is an influential part of the group, especially when it will actually cost you money in the short run.

And this one too 

[nemtizz]

 

Let's sign a midfielder then, please.

[Coffee_Johnny]

Thiaw and Gallagher currently within the bounds of the Kingdom of Northumbria. Time for the riding families to rise and round them up! (Then just need a couple of strikers and window shopping is done). 

[Guest]

Would be tempted to look at Angel Gomes as an option at the right price to offer something a little different and for depth

[toon25]

41 minutes ago, Big River said:

not this shit again  anyone wanting to sell Joelinton is off their fucking nut.

 

This a million times. Aside from what he brings on the pitch, he's an absolute fucking warrior.