toon25 Posted August 9, 2025 Share Posted August 9, 2025 4 minutes ago, Tonalis Bookie said: Would be tempted to look at Angel Gomes as an option at the right price to offer something a little different and for depth Signed for Marseilles Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 9, 2025 Share Posted August 9, 2025 5 minutes ago, toon25 said: Signed for Marseilles oh god, missed that one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HayDen Traces Posted August 9, 2025 Share Posted August 9, 2025 Fingers crossed we can bring a striker in before Villa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted August 9, 2025 Share Posted August 9, 2025 1 hour ago, oldtype said: Okay let me do the math for you. Joelinton's transfer fee is already fully amortized so his only PSR hit is his wages, which I will guess are about 100k/week, or 5.2 m/year. Let's say we sell him for 40m and bring in an MGW-equivalent at 65m, and amortize the latter fee so it hits our books over five years at 13m/year. I'm assuming this MGW-equivalent would demand significantly higher wages. For argument's sake let's say it's 150k/week, or 7.8m/year. The first year of this transaction the incoming fee hits the books all at once while the outgoing fee is amortized, so we have 40-17-2.6 = 20.4m in additional PSR headroom. But in the second year, the incoming fee is gone so we actually have 15.6m less PSR headroom. And that continues for the remainder of the new midfielder's contract, so an additional three years after that. Let's assume that Joelinton realistically only has three years left as our first choice CM before we have to replace him anyway, so anything after that is irrelevant. Even under that assumption, you are talking about 10.8m less psr headroom over that three-year period if we replace Joelinton now. So by "recycling the money" we actually end up with less money than we'd have by just riding out his contract. Obviously there's some upside in that you've also bought that MGW-equivalent who may or may not be able to continue to play for us after that three-year period, and could presumably be sold again for more money himself. Still, the club could very rationally make the decision that this upside is not worth the risk of moving out a good player who is an influential part of the group, especially when it will actually cost you money in the short run. You understand the point. We can sell the player again at 29 or 30. If we don’t sell Joelinton by next year, that’s £40m in PSR potentially gone. Maybe we’ll get £10m from a newly promoted team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted August 9, 2025 Share Posted August 9, 2025 32 minutes ago, HayDen Traces said: Fingers crossed we can bring a striker in before Villa why? they wont play now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted August 9, 2025 Share Posted August 9, 2025 Just now, astraguy said: why? they wont play now If we sign Wissa he’ll play Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted August 9, 2025 Share Posted August 9, 2025 4 minutes ago, Taylor Swift said: You understand the point. We can sell the player again at 29 or 30. If we don’t sell Joelinton by next year, that’s £40m in PSR potentially gone. Maybe we’ll get £10m from a newly promoted team. Shouldn't you be a Birmingham fan now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted August 9, 2025 Share Posted August 9, 2025 Just now, gdm said: If we sign Wissa he’ll play I was thinking earlier we wouldn't do that because he hasn't played any pre-season games. Then I thought if we don't play him he'll never get fit so you're probably right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 9, 2025 Share Posted August 9, 2025 1 hour ago, Big River said: not this shit again anyone wanting to sell Joelinton is off their fucking nut. Exactly, without him our form drops and he is the second most difficult player to replace, when we do we will probably have to change our style of play Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted August 9, 2025 Share Posted August 9, 2025 Probably due to lowered expectations, but I would be very happy with the window if we get in Wissa, Samu/Jackson and a quality creative CM. Very important that we get a quality CM though and not just a backup. GK Pope Ramsdale RB Tino Trippier RCB Schär Thiaw LCB Burn Botman LB Hall Targett (Burn, Tino) RW Elanga Murphy CM Tonali Bruno Joelinton Miley Willock New Quality CM LW Gordon Barnes FW Wissa Samu/Jackson Other than Targett and Willock, thats very good quality double cover on every position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted August 9, 2025 Share Posted August 9, 2025 14 minutes ago, astraguy said: why? they wont play now He would or should, wood came straight in when we bought him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazeT44 Posted August 9, 2025 Share Posted August 9, 2025 (edited) I appreciate the window has not gone the way we wanted, but compare it to our team 5 years ago Dubravka Darlow Yedlin Manquillo Krafth Schar Clark Lascelles Fernandez Ritchie Lewis Dummett S. Longstaff M. Longstaff Hayden Shelvey Hendrick Willock Anderson Almiron Murphy ASM Fraser Gayle Joelinton Carroll Wilson We've come along way. I'd have snapped your arm off for where we are now, 5 years ago. Edited August 9, 2025 by BlazeT44 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted August 9, 2025 Share Posted August 9, 2025 2 minutes ago, andycap said: He would or should, wood came straight in when we bought him. in jan,so already had minutes elsewhere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted August 9, 2025 Share Posted August 9, 2025 Just now, astraguy said: in jan,so already had minutes elsewhere We don't have a first team striker he comes straight, in there's no excuse really unless he's carrying a knock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted August 9, 2025 Share Posted August 9, 2025 I want Joelinton to stay forever. When we’re playing a better team he’s the first name on the team sheet for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Posted August 9, 2025 Share Posted August 9, 2025 Joelinton is Eddie Howe's Newcastle personified. Intensity is his identity, what he lacks in technical ability he makes up for in aggression and never-say-die attitude. When he's out of the team, especially against better opposition we sorely miss him. He's worth more to us than whatever skimpy fee we'd get for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted August 9, 2025 Share Posted August 9, 2025 2 minutes ago, Kimbo said: I want Joelinton to stay forever. When we’re playing a better team he’s the first name on the team sheet for me. once again, he's just way too valuable to us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solitude20 Posted August 9, 2025 Share Posted August 9, 2025 20 minutes ago, Displayname said: Probably due to lowered expectations, but I would be very happy with the window if we get in Wissa, Samu/Jackson and a quality creative CM. Very important that we get a quality CM though and not just a backup. GK Pope Ramsdale RB Tino Trippier RCB Schär Thiaw LCB Burn Botman LB Hall Targett (Burn, Tino) RW Elanga Murphy CM Tonali Bruno Joelinton Miley Willock New Quality CM LW Gordon Barnes FW Wissa Samu/Jackson Other than Targett and Willock, thats very good quality double cover on every position. You forgot Park for LW and RW as third option backup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted August 9, 2025 Share Posted August 9, 2025 12 minutes ago, andycap said: He would or should, wood came straight in when we bought him. That was mid season though, he'd not had a disrupted pre-season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted August 9, 2025 Share Posted August 9, 2025 1 minute ago, Solitude20 said: You forgot Park for LW and RW as third option backup. Didn't forget, just listed 2 options per position. Also have Krafth, Lascelles, Osula and someone else I've probably forgotten about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted August 9, 2025 Share Posted August 9, 2025 38 minutes ago, Moose said: Joelinton is Eddie Howe's Newcastle personified. Intensity is his identity, what he lacks in technical ability he makes up for in aggression and never-say-die attitude. When he's out of the team, especially against better opposition we sorely miss him. He's worth more to us than whatever skimpy fee we'd get for him. Really Important we keep him healthy this season. Another CM would be great Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funtime Frankie Posted August 9, 2025 Share Posted August 9, 2025 1 hour ago, Displayname said: Probably due to lowered expectations, but I would be very happy with the window if we get in Wissa, Samu/Jackson and a quality creative CM. Very important that we get a quality CM though and not just a backup. GK Pope Ramsdale RB Tino Trippier RCB Schär Thiaw LCB Burn Botman LB Hall Targett (Burn, Tino) RW Elanga Murphy CM Tonali Bruno Joelinton Miley Willock New Quality CM LW Gordon Barnes FW Wissa Samu/Jackson Other than Targett and Willock, thats very good quality double cover on every position. I would probably have A. Murphy over Targett Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted August 9, 2025 Share Posted August 9, 2025 Hopefully Gallagher stayed behind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 9, 2025 Share Posted August 9, 2025 Give me right nut for a concrete midfielder link. Wissa + Midfielder = window salvaged. Would absolutely love it if we fucked off Isak by making him stay and spent our wad of money on CM who's proper class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted August 9, 2025 Share Posted August 9, 2025 17 minutes ago, STM said: Give me right nut for a concrete midfielder link. Wissa + Midfielder = window salvaged. Would absolutely love it if we fucked off Isak by making him stay and spent our wad of money on CM who's proper class. With Wissa and Thiaw joining, Isak staying, and a class new CM, the window would be near perfect. All that ends well is well and all that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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