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1 minute ago, andycap said:

Won things at two clubs with a vastly weaker squads. 

 

I like Glasner, top coach. But given Howe has also established himself as a decent cup manager, surely if you're wanting to trade up, you'd be looking for more than that.

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3 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

I like Glasner, top coach. But given Howe has also established himself as a decent cup manager, surely if you're wanting to trade up, you'd be looking for more than that.

Not really just someone who has a more open mind towards formations and systems or a coach that focuses on us keeping possession for a bit atleast. 😂 

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2 minutes ago, andycap said:

Not really just someone who has a more open mind towards formations and systems or a coach that focuses on us keeping possession for a bit atleast. 😂 

 

Keeping possession isn't the problem, it's what we do with it

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21 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

Has Glasner shown anything to suggest he'd be a significant upgrade on Howe? I'd put them in a very similar bracket.

Won the Europa league and FA Cup. 
 

In not saying he would be an upgrade. But I’ve had this discussion with friends about Howe. Outside of the usual names you can argue those 2 cups put Glasner above and while I wouldn’t say he is better I think that’s a valid argument. 

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7 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Won the Europa league and FA Cup. 
 

In not saying he would be an upgrade. But I’ve had this discussion with friends about Howe. Outside of the usual names you can argue those 2 cups put Glasner above and while I wouldn’t say he is better I think that’s a valid argument. 

 

That's fair enough, but also kind of my point.

 

You could make a case either way, particularly when overall, under Howe we tend to do alright in the cups. Surely if you do get rid of Howe, you do it for a significant upgrade?

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31 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

I like Glasner, top coach. But given Howe has also established himself as a decent cup manager, surely if you're wanting to trade up, you'd be looking for more than that.


You have to look at potential and what a particular manager has achieved with the resources they have, then judge if they can make the step up and push on when they have more resources available to them.

 

Which is what we did with Howe, who in his last season at Bournemouth finished with 10 points less than we did with Bruce that season, but the club could see beyond that and the relegation and seen the potential he had.

 

I don’t think it is a case of Glasner being better than Howe on paper, the thought process should be as follows…

 

• Does the club believe that Howe can take us to the next level?

 

• If not, do they think that Glasner can potentially take us to the next level given the resources he will have available to him?

 

If they think that Howe can’t take us to the next level, then they have to roll the dice on on potential if the proven manager isn’t available, as it doesn’t benefit anyone if Howe is a dead man walking while we wait for the right candidate becomes available, and it certainly doesn’t show Howe the level of respect he deserves.

 

 

 

 

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39 minutes ago, andycap said:

Won things at two clubs with a vastly weaker squads. 

Frankfurt aren't vastly inferior in relation to the rest of the teams around them in Germany. In the Premier League I think the difference in quality from 5th to about 12th is very compressed as well, any of them are capable of thrashing each other (and sometimes beating the very top teams too)

 

That's not to take away from Glasner's achievements though, it's again a defense of Howe.

 

 

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