Sibierski Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 11 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Howe always talks about players being desperate to come here. When push came to shove he chose elsewhere, as understandable as that might have been. Was Ramsey desperate to come here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 10 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Howe always talks about players being desperate to come here. When push came to shove he chose elsewhere, as understandable as that might have been. He was desperate to come here wasn't he for two transfer windows? and we pissed about and Man City came in and activated their clause Whether they would have always come in for him who knows but he was definitely keen to come by all accounts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 3 minutes ago, Sibierski said: Was Ramsey desperate to come here? Seemed keen to play under Howe watching his video and the added bonus his GF lives in Gosforth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 3 minutes ago, joeyt said: He was desperate to come here wasn't he for two transfer windows? and we pissed about and Man City came in and activated their clause Whether they would have always come in for him who knows but he was definitely keen to come by all accounts AFAIK based on reports in the end, despite wanting to come here, he had the choice and chose them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 5 minutes ago, Sibierski said: Was Ramsey desperate to come here? You tell me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 3 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: AFAIK based on reports in the end, despite wanting to come here, he had the choice and chose them. I don;t really blame him if he was promised to be number 1 at Man City. Not sure anyone expected them to get Donnaruma as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 39 minutes ago, LFEE said: Found it @El Prontonise Not that it matters but am I missing something here? Clear as day the ball has been played before the contact with the hand. Substituting a hand for a foot and I'd feel hard done by if I fairly nicking the ball ended up standing on someone's foot on the follow thorugh only for it to be called a foul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 37 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: AFAIK based on reports in the end, despite wanting to come here, he had the choice and chose them. Didn’t we go back in for Ekitike after he fucked us about and went elsewhere previously? I don’t think Howe is any different from any other manager - if a player he wants is available, then he’ll try and sign him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 hour ago, Thumbheed said: Not that it matters but am I missing something here? Clear as day the ball has been played before the contact with the hand. Substituting a hand for a foot and I'd feel hard done by if I fairly nicking the ball ended up standing on someone's foot on the follow thorugh only for it to be called a foul. Sounds like you are. You can’t stand on hands or feet in football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 29 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Didn’t we go back in for Ekitike after he fucked us about and went elsewhere previously? I don’t think Howe is any different from any other manager - if a player he wants is available, then he’ll try and sign him. Yeah that's a fair point about Ekitike. Can only guess that it's a general rule that some players are the exception to, but total guesswork really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Joel Inton Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 If we signed Ekitike I think we’d be comfortably in the top 5. He would’ve been absolutely perfect for us. That said, I love Woltemade, but the biggest challenge we have is Howe implementing a playing style to accommodate him. Hopefully it’ll all work out in the end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 minute ago, Sir Joel Inton said: If we signed Ekitike I think we’d be comfortably in the top 5. He would’ve been absolutely perfect for us. That said, I love Woltemade, but the biggest challenge we have is Howe implementing a playing style to accommodate him. Hopefully it’ll all work out in the end. Surely easier to get through this season and sell big Nick for a more mobile and faster and stronger CF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GideonShandy Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 hour ago, Kid Icarus said: AFAIK based on reports in the end, despite wanting to come here, he had the choice and chose them. Didn't City have a contractual option to buy him back? And wouldn't such an option be meaningless if the player could simply decide to move somewhere else when the club holding the option tried to exercise it? Never been sure how this works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 7 minutes ago, GideonShandy said: Didn't City have a contractual option to buy him back? And wouldn't such an option be meaningless if the player could simply decide to move somewhere else when the club holding the option tried to exercise it? Never been sure how this works. Not sure how it works generally either. Would guess that every buy back clause is different. All I know is that it was reported (I think by Hope and The Athletic) that in this case in the end he had the choice and chose Man City. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Not sure how it works generally either. Would guess that every buy back clause is different. All I know is that it was reported (I think by Hope and The Athletic) that in this case in the end he had the choice and chose Man City. Still don’t think it was clear as cut as Hope reported. Was definitely something strange how hesitant we were in making the move then when we did and it was announced within a couple of minutes he was all but a Man City player due them triggering a buy back clause. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 (edited) 5 minutes ago, LFEE said: Still don’t think it was clear as cut as Hope reported. Was definitely something strange how hesitant we were in making the move then when we did and it was announced within a couple of minutes he was all but a Man City player due them triggering a buy back clause. Hope did add more IIRC, how it dragged on basically because Burnley didn't want to sell to us due to how much they disliked Mitchell, even though he'd already left. Big pinch of salt on that one I think, as unlikeable as Mitchell is. Edited January 1 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 7 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Hope did add more IIRC, how it dragged on basically because Burnley didn't want to sell to us due to how much they disliked Mitchell, even though he'd already left. Big pinch of salt on that one I think, as unlikeable as Mitchell is. Definitely. Don’t think Hope was a fan of Mitchell so you can imagine he’d dream up a narrative to suite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 2 hours ago, joeyt said: He was desperate to come here wasn't he for two transfer windows? and we pissed about and Man City came in and activated their clause Whether they would have always come in for him who knows but he was definitely keen to come by all accounts Couldn't Man City activate that at any time though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Antonio Mango has shared a lot of stuff for a while about how he knows Sven Botman's agent. He hasn't said explicitly why, but in his recent video about squad overhauling he said that the contract for him still hasn't been signed and that if it was his choice he'd cash in on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 7 minutes ago, McDog said: Couldn't Man City activate that at any time though? I believe so. IMO opinion our hesitation was due to us knowing this and finding out more ie Trafford had no choice if activated which maybe was kept from us originally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Citys clauses was with Burnley not Trafford City had the option to match any accepted offer. Trafford choose City for whatever reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 (edited) 17 minutes ago, LFEE said: I believe so. IMO opinion our hesitation was due to us knowing this and finding out more ie Trafford had no choice if activated which maybe was kept from us originally. The one thing I am not clear on with buy back clauses is once activated does that void the offer, in this example Newcastle, and then the player must decide to go to the team that activated it? I mean, logically that stands to reason. edit: @r0cafella may have answered my question. Edited January 2 by McDog Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GideonShandy Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 29 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Citys clauses was with Burnley not Trafford City had the option to match any accepted offer. Trafford choose City for whatever reason. But if Trafford had chosen us, and Burnley then went ahead and sold him to us, despite having an equivalent offer from City, wouldn't Burnley have been in breach of its contract with City? Still can't see what value the option is if the player and his current club can just decide to ignore it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 (edited) 2 minutes ago, GideonShandy said: But if Trafford had chosen us, and Burnley then went ahead and sold him to us, despite having an equivalent offer from City, wouldn't Burnley have been in breach of its contract with City? Still can't see what value the option is if the player and his current club can just decide to ignore it. I don't think so but I'm not sure. It's a right to match, not he has to go there is my understanding. Edited January 2 by McDog Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 8 minutes ago, GideonShandy said: But if Trafford had chosen us, and Burnley then went ahead and sold him to us, despite having an equivalent offer from City, wouldn't Burnley have been in breach of its contract with City? Still can't see what value the option is if the player and his current club can just decide to ignore it. No Burnley's agreement with City related to accepting a matching bid. Burnley and city's agreement can't bind Trafford as the clause is between the two clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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