NWMag Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, Nowhere Man said: Mate at work reckons Joshua Kimmich is incoming. Thinks he’s an ITK. He did get Isak right like 🫣 I’d say bullshit. I’d call bullshit too, surely too expensive both fee and wages? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, r0cafella said: I thought he signed a new contract? Not yet. Think it's still up in the air whether he'll sign or not like Zaha. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 1 minute ago, NWMag said: I’d call bullshit too, surely too expensive both fee and wages? 28 as well. Think we are trying to bring younger players in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Matt1892 said: I’m not convinced Thuram would improve our starting 11 once we sign Tonali. Im not sure, but only based on that it would push Joelinton out of the middle. Tonali, Bruno, Joelinton is solid. I'd prefer a winger, Moussa Diaby, or Harvey Barnes. But I think we will pull another wildcard, Like Florian Wirts, or Charles De Ketelaere, Antonio Nusa wouldn't be bad Edited July 1, 2023 by mighty__mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 If Bruno and Tonali are going to be our CM's in a 4-2-3-1 formation, then I think it's crucial that we buy a right sided forward who can score goals. We have lots of pacy, skilfull wide players already in Willock, Almiron, Maxi and Gordon, but none of them hit the ball particularly well. That's what Liverpool have paid for in Szoboslai, he might not be a wide player as such, but he can strike the ball well. Miggy scored 10 goals last season and it was great, but is he going to do that every season? We need someone who can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 I'll be amazed if we play anything other than 4-3-3 again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 6 minutes ago, TRon said: crucial that we buy a right sided forward who can score goals. Amen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 New name? https://sportwitness.co.uk/assumption-newcastle-united-preparing-offer-23-year-old-transfer-fee-not-problem-magpies/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 We're going to need a much bigger squad to cope with the extra fixtures, and Nelson on a free would be a good addition. And it would be really great to take him away from Arsenal and for Eddie to produce the sorts of improvements in him that we've seen with other members of the squad. It doesn't look like we'll win any transfer battles with the 'blg six' for the time being, so we have to build gradually (which of course has its own merits anyway) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, Cronky said: We're going to need a much bigger squad to cope with the extra fixtures We need a purple. Almiron and Murphy backup is enough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 I think Thuram would be a very shrewd signing and gives us a good physical presence alongside Bruno and Tonali, almost a perfect midfield 3. It would also free up Joe to play wide left as not sure Gordon or St Max will get the start. We’d still have funds for a young attacker like Franca down the right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 With signing Nelson we already have enough ok-nothing special (at this time) wide players. It's a position that needs real investment, just like LB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 30 minutes ago, Cronky said: We're going to need a much bigger squad to cope with the extra fixtures, and Nelson on a free would be a good addition. And it would be really great to take him away from Arsenal and for Eddie to produce the sorts of improvements in him that we've seen with other members of the squad. It doesn't look like we'll win any transfer battles with the 'blg six' for the time being, so we have to build gradually (which of course has its own merits anyway) Quantity isn't the issue, it's quality in certain areas. Most positions we have 2-3 senior players. It's why I'm not so sure extending Ritchie and offering Dummett a new deal was such a good idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 58 minutes ago, The Prophet said: I'll be amazed if we play anything other than 4-3-3 again. Regardless of the formation, if you have three forwards, then they need to either be hitting the net regularly or setting up the others to do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 (edited) If we were to grade the squad as a top 4 challenger in terms of depth I'd say.... A: Bruno, Isak, Botman, Tonali, Trippier B: Pope, Schar, Willock, Longstaff, Joelinton, Almiron, St-Maximin, Gordon, Wilson C: Dubravka, Karius, Burn, Targett, Murphy, Anderson D: Darlow, Lascelles, Krafth, Manquillo E & below: Gillespie, Ritchie, Dummett, Hayden, Hendrick Give or take a grade for the majority based on opinion, and writing off Hayden and Hendrick, plus I've probably missed one or two players when I was trying to work it out off the top of my head on the bus. There's 14 players I'd happily see starting any game, 4 players in the "C" where you could probably still be very confident of competing seeing two starting, as long as there's at least 3-4 from "A" and 4-5 from "B". That's 19 senior players plus Anderson who are good enough. We're never going to have a perfect squad 2 years into this ownership so we'll likely have 3-4 senior players D & E bracket for a year or so yet, so ideally we need 2-3 more this summer. Edited July 1, 2023 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: If we were to grade the squad as a top 4 challenger in terms of depth I'd say.... A: Bruno, Isak, Botman, Tonali, Trippier B: Pope, Schar, Willock, Longstaff, Joelinton, Almiron, St-Maximin, Gordon, Wilson C: Dubravka, Karius, Burn, Targett, Murphy, Anderson D: Darlow, Lascelles, Krafth, Manquillo E & below: Gillespie, Ritchie, Dummett, Hayden, Hendrick Give or take a grade for the majority based on opinion, and writing off Hayden and Hendrick, plus I've probably missed one or two players when I was trying to work it out off the top of my head on the bus. There's 14 players I'd happily see starting any game, 4 players in the "C" where you could probably still be very confident of competing seeing two starting, as long as there's at least 3-4 from "A" and 4-5 from "B". That's 19 senior players plus Anderson who are good enough. We're never going to have a perfect squad 2 years into this ownership so we'll likely have 3-4 senior players D & E bracket for a year or so yet, so ideally we need 2-3 more this summer. Agree with most of that but Joelinton should be A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 I'm assuming we are hoping one of Minteh of Kuol will step into the first team squad next year or the season after, so possible age isn't a pre-requiste for anyone else coming in for the wide areas, as long as there is some resale value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, Geogaddi said: Agree with most of that but Joelinton should be A. I love the guy, but his finishing needs to be better to be an A. He's more like a B++ for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Geogaddi said: Agree with most of that but Joelinton should be A. Aye he was definitely in the "give or take a grade" group but I didn't want to put two many As in. Like you'd probably break it down more into the likes of Pope, Wilson and Joelinton as B+ and Gordon and Almiron B- if I dissected further. Edited July 1, 2023 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 6 minutes ago, toontownman said: I'm assuming we are hoping one of Minteh of Kuol will step into the first team squad next year or the season after, so possible age isn't a pre-requiste for anyone else coming in for the wide areas, as long as there is some resale value. Far to early to tell on either of them 2 imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, TRon said: I love the guy, but his finishing needs to be better to be an A. He's more like a B++ for me. Definitely not A at LW. And I think a solid B+ at CM. Im not certain Botman is A either. He’s not as good as Isak, Trippier or Bruno imo. Not sure he’s currently better than Schar either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Just now, The College Dropout said: Definitely not A at LW. And I think a solid B+ at CM. Im not certain Botman is A either. He’s not as good as Isak, Trippier or Bruno imo. Not sure he’s currently better than Schar either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Joelinton lacks guile and finishing ability at LW to be considered an A at LW. Botman is probably better in the air than Schar defensively. But has a lot of the same weaknesses and strengths. Composed, reads it well, good on the ball, can be aggressive, good concentration. Struggles against pace, not an attacking threat aerially. And Botman has had Burn in close proximity all season. Schar is left far more exposed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Bringing in Thuram would give us 6 quality players for 3 positions. I’m all for it, but doubt that’s the route we’ll go given the other priorities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Joelinton has won player of the season two years in a row and basically never has a bad game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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