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Ikon Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 (edited) 16 minutes ago, KaKa said: Yeah, had a decent season. Would be cool for Isak too, signing another Swedish player. I think Isak will find it more cool if we sign proper quality instead. Not that Elanga is absolutely shite or anything. Edited June 29, 2024 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 1 minute ago, Bunk Moreland said: how does swapping help with PSR? other than you're not spending anything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 Just now, duo said: how does swapping help with PSR? other than you're not spending anything Both will go through as individual transfers but will rely on both happening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 (edited) Elanga is another player who’s mostly decent in a very transitional team. It’s great to be good in transitions but imo we need genuine quality that also helps us in games where there isn’t that much transitioning. im “ok” with him if it’s as backup at best, and cheap cheap. Edited June 29, 2024 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 1 minute ago, duo said: how does swapping help with PSR? other than you're not spending anything For accounting purposes, say both players are valued at 10mill, both have a 10 million incoming onto the books but due to amortisation it's only 2mill going out for thus seasons accounts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 2 minutes ago, duo said: how does swapping help with PSR? other than you're not spending anything They aren’t actually swap, they are two separate transactions so both parties can book the revenue amortise the cost. It’s why the accusations of inflating fees are levelled because it’s beneficial to do so for FFP purpose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 Having to sell a promising academy graduate to be compliant of some arbitrary set of financial rules Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 Is Elanga good enough to be the top class RW we need ? Genuine question as I’ve not watched him much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schecter Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 Elanga is rapid and I was very impressed with him when Forrest thrashed us on Boxing Day. He's only 22, think he has much more potential than Anderson. As much as I'd love Anderson to be successful here I just think he's missing pace and isn't a goal threat to be a top player. Hope I'm wrong about him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 4 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Is Elanga good enough to be the top class RW we need ? Genuine question as I’ve not watched him much. He’s decent but I’d be quite disappointed if that was the big RW signing tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 26 minutes ago, KaKa said: Yeah, had a decent season. Would be cool for Isak too, signing another Swedish player. There's an old Swedish property developer, Johnson Hallson, who doesn't think Isak and Elanga are proper Swedes 😉 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggies Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 Just now, gdm said: He’s decent but I’d be quite disappointed if that was the big RW signing tbh 100%. It’s hard to judge these potential signings until the window is finished. As a squad player, I’d rather have Elanga over Anderson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 Just now, SUPERTOON said: Is Elanga good enough to be the top class RW we need ? Genuine question as I’ve not watched him much. Wouldn't describe him as top class, no. Really dangerous player though, as he's incredibly fast, carries the ball, and makes runs in behind. 5 goals and 9 assists for Forest in his first season as a starter in the league, for his age, is really decent. Ideally, we'd sign a first team right winger and add Elanga as the squad option. With Almiron leaving. Outside of Olise, I'm struggling to see which right winger of that calibre we could get. Wolves are talking about £60 million for Neto, and that is a big number, when you look at his injury history. Mbeumo would be a good addition, but at the £50 million Brentford want, not so sure. Do we then go for someone like Elanga as the starter at a £25 million type fee, and use the extra budget on a better centre back and the Georgian goalie? And a top young prospect that can play upfront and out wide like Moukoko? Going to be interesting to see what the thinking is. The right winger options aren't looking to plentiful, which is why I think we really made an effort for Olise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 I am just so utterly confused about what is going on with the club (its scope to succeed and ambitions), the PL, the transfer window and PSR atm. I’ve never wanted to just watch us play football more in my life. Just a game of football, you know, the thing that is the main thing that this whole sport is about. The rest is just mind numbing bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 44 minutes ago, duo said: how does swapping help with PSR? other than you're not spending anything Builds a narrative moving forward. "We struggled to hold onto our best players because of PSR, it's not only strangling our ambition, it could have caused us to regress." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybe_next_year Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 Feel like we're in between a rock and a hard place with our, very limited, academy graduates. We don't really have enough for European squad rules but we may need to sell them for PSR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 so where do journos get these leaks from? is it agents? who would have leaked the gordon to lfc shite? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 2 minutes ago, huss9 said: so where do journos get these leaks from? is it agents? who would have leaked the gordon to lfc shite? Voices in their heads! Need the clicks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 1 minute ago, huss9 said: so where do journos get these leaks from? is it agents? who would have leaked the gordon to lfc shite? Hope, Edwards and Downie are breifed by the club. These days we tend to only put out what we want them to know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 6 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Hope, Edwards and Downie are breifed by the club. These days we tend to only put out what we want them to know. so leaking a gordon story to what end? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 Just now, huss9 said: so leaking a gordon story to what end? Could be multiple reasons. Cushioning the blow of losing Minteh or Andetson and/or being able to point to the crushing reality of PSR moving forward. I do think we'll have learnt valuable lessons from this though, I'll be shocked of we find ourselves in this position again, if it is of course as bad as the narrative suggests. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 2 minutes ago, huss9 said: so leaking a gordon story to what end? Just my personal thought - Liverpool enquire about the availability of AG. We responded with a high figure. We leak the story as more evidence of PSR just resulting in the "big six" praying on the rest, knowing "the rules" make them vulnerable. Same with Chelsea/Isak. It could also be a softening-the-blow move when we sell Minteh, "Well, at least it wasn't Isak, Gordon etc" The alternative is that we are trying to flog a major asset and this is us just trying to drum up interest. That doesn't bare thinking about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1tche Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 I think the club are playing this perfectly, we must have extra sponsorship deals lined up that would dig us out of whatever PSR hole we are in, but Man.C winning the case they have against the league could mean we could up those a bit. They'll also be wanting to drop them so they go against next year's rather than this year's. So one of these "swaps" that makes the squad a bit better as well as gets us out of said hole would be perfect, until we know how much we can potentially get away with some of the sponsorship deals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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