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  On 07/04/2025 at 21:16, SUPERTOON said:

Still maintain he’s a better LB than RB.

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He's not, like. His best at RB is even better than he's recently been at LB. People seem to have sort memories with Tino imo. I dont think he's lost what he had there, he's a young lad, it'll be form and confidence. His cup final performance did wonders for him and rightly so. 

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Pretty sure we're not going to have this discussion next season, after he has gone back to RB and finds similar or even better form there. It's just one of those coincidences that leads us to anchoring bias imo. As someone said it's probably more about form and confidence, and not necessarily the position.

 

 

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  On 07/04/2025 at 21:16, SUPERTOON said:

Still maintain he’s a better LB than RB.

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Agreed. A very good right-back, but less effective going forward than he is on the other side, where he’s basically a near-perfect modern-day inverted full-back. 
I really wouldn’t be surprised if one of the cartel came in for him. 

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I feel like the only thing holding him back is not having a right winger on the same level.

 

The stats and link up play between Isak & Murphy doesn't lie, so I feel like there's a bright future ahead for Tino if he can step up and also be world class.

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  On 08/04/2025 at 07:34, magorific said:

Agreed. A very good right-back, but less effective going forward than he is on the other side, where he’s basically a near-perfect modern-day inverted full-back. 
I really wouldn’t be surprised if one of the cartel came in for him. 

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I’d be astonished if they did - we’re unlikely to sell at a loss, so they’d likely need to cough up over £40m, and none of them actually need a right back (if anything they’re all well stocked there).  Porro, Timber, Gray, White, Lewis, Gusto, Dalot, Mazrouai, James, Bradley, etc etc

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  On 08/04/2025 at 07:34, magorific said:

Agreed. A very good right-back, but less effective going forward than he is on the other side, where he’s basically a near-perfect modern-day inverted full-back. 
I really wouldn’t be surprised if one of the cartel came in for him. 

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Theres nothing inverted about his play :D He’s driving down the wing with the ball and overlapping. 
 

He’ll be fine at RB. People forget when he was at RB his instructions were mostly to sit deeper (we see it with Trippier now). And he can’t really overlap as Murphy does that width and hit byline.
 

It’s just his crossing is weirdly better on left foot than his right :lol:

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It's atleast really nice to have someone who you can rely on regardless of what side you need him to play. Not many fullbacks can play on the other side and have it look like that's their preferred position. It indirectly improves the squad depth in a way.

 

 

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  On 08/04/2025 at 11:22, Sibierski said:


Theres nothing inverted about his play :D He’s driving down the wing with the ball and overlapping. 
 

He’ll be fine at RB. People forget when he was at RB his instructions were mostly to sit deeper (we see it with Trippier now). And he can’t really overlap as Murphy does that width and hit byline.
 

It’s just his crossing is weirdly better on left foot than his right :lol:

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doesn't over hit stuff :lol: 

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  On 08/04/2025 at 11:20, TheBrownBottle said:

I’d be astonished if they did - we’re unlikely to sell at a loss, so they’d likely need to cough up over £40m, and none of them actually need a right back (if anything they’re all well stocked there).  Porro, Timber, Gray, White, Lewis, Gusto, Dalot, Mazrouai, James, Bradley, etc etc

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Probably not the right place to discuss it, but at least half cartel don't have half the pulling power or spending power they used to....

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  On 08/04/2025 at 07:34, magorific said:

Agreed. A very good right-back, but less effective going forward than he is on the other side, where he’s basically a near-perfect modern-day inverted full-back. 
I really wouldn’t be surprised if one of the cartel came in for him. 

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Not sure why anyone would write that sentence?

 

I mean, what does it matter, we will not sell our best players, and none of our best players would leave NUFC to take a downward career step.

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I'll probably get blasted for mentioning his name, but Sean Casey suggested that we protect the LB more than the RB in our system, as we build up from the left side more (Hall) and Tino is excellent 1v1, so he often doesn't have a midfielder drop deep/support, ala Joelinton on the left side 

 

 

Makes sense to me imo

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  On 08/04/2025 at 11:22, Sibierski said:


Theres nothing inverted about his play :D He’s driving down the wing with the ball and overlapping. 
 

He’ll be fine at RB. People forget when he was at RB his instructions were mostly to sit deeper (we see it with Trippier now). And he can’t really overlap as Murphy does that width and hit byline.
 

It’s just his crossing is weirdly better on left foot than his right :lol:

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There’s nothing inverted about the countless inverted, right-footed runs he has made from left-back, both in recent weeks and when playing there last season vs the occasional overlap a la Monday night?

Righto.

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https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6266576/2025/04/11/tino-livramento-newcastle-united-analysis/

 

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  On 08/04/2025 at 07:34, magorific said:


I really wouldn’t be surprised if one of the cartel came in for him. 

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The days of them being able to cherry-pick players from the likes of us and Villa are gone.

 

Even clubs like Brighton, whose model is to sell, can command astronomical fees, so what’s a club that doesn’t want to sell going to ask for? Too much in the current PSR-landscape.

 

The only way they can really get at our players is to start adopting Madrid-like long-term unsettling tactics, and that’s harder to do in the same country IMO.

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  On 11/04/2025 at 07:58, SteV said:

The days of them being able to cherry-pick players from the likes of us and Villa are gone.

 

Even clubs like Brighton, whose model is to sell, can command astronomical fees, so what’s a club that doesn’t want to sell going to ask for? Too much in the current PSR-landscape.

 

The only way they can really get at our players is to start adopting Madrid-like long-term unsettling tactics, and that’s harder to do in the same country IMO.

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I don't think they are gone at all. They've just got to pay the actual going rate. 

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  On 11/04/2025 at 08:06, r0cafella said:

I don't think they are gone at all. They've just got to pay the actual going rate. 

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But the going rate is becoming more than is sensible due to PSR. Yeah, if they really, really want someone they can probably find the money, but it would impact significantly on what else they can do.

 

If someone unsettled Tino this summer, how much would we ask for? £60m? £80m? No one is going to pay that because it would be silly in terms of PSR.

 

We’ve seen Man Utd ridiculously overpay for players in recent times and look at the state that’s left them in. Yes, it’s partly (well, quite significantly) due to the players in question turning out to be mediocre/shite, but it’s also left them in a financial hole to the point they’re sacking dinner ladies to save £12.87.

 

 

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  On 11/04/2025 at 08:24, SteV said:

But the going rate is becoming more than is sensible due to PSR. Yeah, if they really, really want someone they can probably find the money, but it would impact significantly on what else they can do.

 

If someone unsettled Tino this summer, how much would we ask for? £60m? £80m? No one is going to pay that because it would be silly in terms of PSR.

 

We’ve seen Man Utd ridiculously overpay for players in recent times and look at the state that’s left them in. Yes, it’s partly (well, quite significantly) due to the players in question turning out to be mediocre/shite, but it’s also left them in a financial hole to the point they’re sacking dinner ladies to save £12.87.

 

 

 

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Yeah I think nobody would pay those sums for Tino because he probably isn't worth it yet. 

 

FFP is obviously a factor as is the relative financial strength of the league as a whole. 

 

And do add on, it's case by case on a club by club basis. Some clubs like spurs have no intention/ability to spend up to the ffp limit. But if say city wanted Isak this summer it would be gg

 

 

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  On 11/04/2025 at 07:39, Fak said:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6266576/2025/04/11/tino-livramento-newcastle-united-analysis/

 

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As good as Tino has been covering for Hall on the left, it can't be overstated how well this has worked thanks to Tripper rediscovering his 2022 form.

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