Harvey Barnes

[gbandit]

As it stands, in terms of creativity we have ASM who is an outstanding dribbler if not an outstanding passer / chance creator. We have Bruno who is an elite passer, especially along the ground with through balls. Trippier and Tonali are both excellent at crossing and lofted balls. I’d say if we were to lose ASM then we’d be sorely a dribbler in the side. Willock is an amazing ball carrier but not dribbler. Gordon isn’t a dribbler so we do need either ASM or someone with that quality as we can’t just rely on Isak to do it as we need him scoring goals 

[Whitley mag]

1 minute ago, KievKev said:

I'm not a huge fan of this. Gordon and Barnes in a front three is pretty nightmareish in any game that requires guile or creativity or intelligence on the ball. 

I’ve still got high hopes for Gordon due to his age and there’s definitely something there.

 

I just find Barnes a tad disappointing though on the back of that transfer, and not sure if Howe has a blind spot when it comes to wanting homegrown players

 

But everything he’s touched has turned to gold so far, long may that continue and hope he weaves his magic with Barnes.

[The College Dropout]

5 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

It'll be interesting. Think there is still room for growth with him, which is good.

 

I do really appreciate his ability to get into dangerous positions and to actually finish. The number of times we were so wasteful in the final third last season was frustrating, so that will be a huge addition. I think by getting into such dangerous positions he also ends up picking up a lot of assists by virtue of that too.

 

 

Aye and potentially he could score 15–20 with us which would override issues he has with his overall game.  

 

 

Edited July 8, 2023 by The College Dropout

[timeEd32]

There was a narrative forming around Maddison about not fully judging him in a downtrodden relegated side - “he’d be back to his best, etc.” For some reason Barnes isn’t being afforded the same. He’s also being criticized for various deficiencies, while glossing over his output in the most important stat. I’d hope at this point most would be confident that we know his weaknesses, we know where we think he can improve, and we know how he improves the team.

 

Also, you can’t call it a like for like sideways swap with ASM (if we do sell him) without acknowledging that that swap could essentially pay for another player.

[KaKa]

3 minutes ago, gbandit said:

As it stands, in terms of creativity we have ASM who is an outstanding dribbler if not an outstanding passer / chance creator. We have Bruno who is an elite passer, especially along the ground with through balls. Trippier and Tonali are both excellent at crossing and lofted balls. I’d say if we were to lose ASM then we’d be sorely a dribbler in the side. Willock is an amazing ball carrier but not dribbler. Gordon isn’t a dribbler so we do need either ASM or someone with that quality as we can’t just rely on Isak to do it as we need him scoring goals 

 

I really wish we would play ASM on the right as he is just as devastating on that side, and his career numbers show he is actually more productive there.

 

I think it is probably because on the left he looks to cut in and shoot more and his shooting is quite erratic. Playing him on the right forces him to be more of a creator as he looks to cross the ball more on his stronger right foot, and his crossing is pretty decent from that position.

 

The only issue is that we can't really play him on the right with Trippier, as Trippier needs more protection from the wide man ahead of him, but maybe in such scenarios we can play Joelinton as the right sided 8 and have him cover Trippier instead.

 

 

[Ikon]

Not the right player for us imo. 

[STM]

1 hour ago, The Prophet said:

 

Got to remember our journos will be told nothing until it's a formality.

 

The noise from the Leicester end makes it sound like it'll be done and dusted by the end of next week.

Whilst I agree, how hard is it for our journos to ring up their journos? All seems weird.

[Stottie]

Just because this thread needs more stats. 100 games' worth for both players, for teams of a similar level.

 

Barnes is a full year younger than Bowen.

[Toonjam88]

2 hours ago, r0cafella said:

Same source as your team news?

No different so may be bullshit 

[Zero]

I don’t like this transfer, certainly happy to be proven wrong.

 

 

Edited July 8, 2023 by Zero

[STM]

Ornstein or nothing for me these days.

[manorpark]

11 minutes ago, Zero said:

I don’t like this transfer, certainly happy to be proven wrong.

 

 

 

 

I trust Eddie Howe and Dan Ashworth to get it right.

[The Prophet]

 

[Guest]

Fuck sake, just don't take his goals away.

[STM]

Should send Fraser the other way. For nowt.

[elbee909]

Apparently if you take away his legs, he's rubbish at football 

[Shak]

Perhaps it's possible to prefer one of ASM or Barnes without pretending the other is shite?

[The Prophet]

31 minutes ago, timeEd32 said:

There was a narrative forming around Maddison about not fully judging him in a downtrodden relegated side - “he’d be back to his best, etc.” For some reason Barnes isn’t being afforded the same. He’s also being criticized for various deficiencies, while glossing over his output in the most important stat. I’d hope at this point most would be confident that we know his weaknesses, we know where we think he can improve, and we know how he improves the team.

 

Also, you can’t call it a like for like sideways swap with ASM (if we do sell him) without acknowledging that that swap could essentially pay for another player.

 

If he was called Harvé Barnaud...

 

 

[Guest]

Just now, elbee909 said:

Apparently if you take away his legs, he's rubbish at football 

 

Never seen so much piffle as that Tweet.

 

Different players have different abilities, if we've found a 1 in 3 goal scorer with a few weaknesses then fucking hell I'm all in. There's been nothing to suggest the goals are going to dry up the last few years and he's going to have players like Bruno and Tonali feeding him, plus Trippier's delivery from the right when he cuts in from the wing. 

[nufc123]

2 minutes ago, Shak said:

Perhaps it's possible to prefer one of ASM or Barnes without pretending the other is shite?

If Maximin is staying and we add Barnes for the price reported I dont see whats wrong with this transfer. Its very good indeed.

[STM]

Doing a bit of Dennis Wising. 

 

He's a striker basically. Natural goalscorer. Two good feet. Instinctive. Fox in the box. Direct. It seems like everything is about the quickest route to goal. Perhaps he doesn't dribble past people but he seems to power past people, on the shoulder.

 

Perhaps finding a left forward, rather than a LW, is another string to our bow. I feel like Barnes is entirely different to our other wide players.

[Guest]

I said a while ago I'd rather have him than maddison, he's absolute quality.

 

We are also getting a strong nucleus of English players, some people might not think that's important but it helps create a strong bond when you also think of the international set up 

[TBG]

2 hours ago, gbandit said:

Can we get @TBG in to confirm?

 

I'm hearing if not Tuesday, possibly sometime during this window but that's all my sources can say.

[gbandit]

Good enough for me 

[Chapo]

Our new Kevin Nolan