The Prophet Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Is talks are advanced, but no formal bids placed journalist speak for we've agreed an informal price and need to thrash out the finer details? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Which stat accounts for ASM binding up multiple defenders allowing more room for the rest of our team? Stats arent everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 10 minutes ago, El Prontonise said: Better signing than maddison, which the maddison lovers will be disappointed with. Proper aftertiming from me, this But kept thinking I wanted Barnes here, along with Maddison. With preference probably for Barnes. Leicester supporting mate of mine seemed done with Maddison and said Barnes would be the better fit for us and value for money. I’m hoping this goes through and he’s proved right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 I don’t think ‘bidding’ is real anyway TBH. You contact the club, ask if they might sell and then negotiate a deal. The way it’s talked about in the media is very weird. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tina Tooner Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 What journalist first broke the Barnes link? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Tina Tooner said: What journalist first broke the Barnes link? Matt Law or whatever he’s called I think Edited July 8, 2023 by Danh1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 He went big with the story recently, yep. But feels like we’ve been ‘linked’ for ages. Of course linking is just a bloke tweeting someone we might sign. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: He went big with the story recently, yep. But feels like we’ve been ‘linked’ for ages. Of course linking is just a bloke tweeting someone we might sign. Aye you’re right, been linked with him all summer tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Very smokey. Welcome to SJP Musiala.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonesJones Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 15 minutes ago, Displayname said: Which stat accounts for ASM binding up multiple defenders allowing more room for the rest of our team? Stats arent everything. It's the minutes played one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tina Tooner Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 We were linked with Trippier and Botman for ages too. Hate it when people put others down for getting their hopes on us signing a player we are linked with by saying "the club doesn't operate like that, we dont sign linked players, it will be someone completely out of the blue". Whilst we do sign some players out of the blue Isak/Tonali, it isnt true about every signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 It is a good price for Barnes. Without ffp you'd say it was a no brainer. Is there honey still for tea though. 8 minutes ago, Displayname said: Which stat accounts for ASM binding up multiple defenders allowing more room for the rest of our team? Stats arent everything. I agree (liked) the essence of that but there are equal non-existent stat fields that would be negative about ASM. Still better to read the game yourself than use stats as a basis, we underestimate our own ability to tell whether a player has played well or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, Tina Tooner said: We were linked with Trippier and Botman for ages too. Hate it when people put others down for getting their hopes on us signing a player we are linked with by saying "the club doesn't operate like that, we dont sign linked players, it will be someone completely out of the blue". Whilst we do sign some players out of the blue Isak/Tonali, it isnt true about every signing. Tripper and the initial Botman interest were pre Ashworth. It’s clear our operation has tightened up considerably although still mainly working with a Nickson and co targets. Most of what’s we get to know when a transfer isn’t ‘out of the blue’ seems to depend on the other parties involved - selling club, selling club journos, rival bidders and agents. The Barnes stuff still feels agent driven but hopefully we will see in the next week if it’s real or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 45 minutes ago, Displayname said: Which stat accounts for ASM binding up multiple defenders allowing more room for the rest of our team? Stats arent everything. It’s only a benefit on the rare occasions he actually releases the ball early to those in space Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 30 minutes ago, Tina Tooner said: We were linked with Trippier and Botman for ages too. Hate it when people put others down for getting their hopes on us signing a player we are linked with by saying "the club doesn't operate like that, we dont sign linked players, it will be someone completely out of the blue". Whilst we do sign some players out of the blue Isak/Tonali, it isnt true about every signing. Just depends on the circumstances and whether the selling club or agents want it played out in public or are friendly with certain journalists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 8 minutes ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said: It’s only a benefit on the rare occasions he actually releases the ball early to those in space Exactly. ASM is brilliant at pulling defenders towards himself and freeing up space for others, but then most of the time he tries to keep hold of the ball too long and ends up losing it rather than playing in those available players. This is what we mean when we refer to football intelligence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Think if this was agent driven, you'd see more clubs mentioned in the running. The reporting so far seems pretty conclusive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, TRon said: Exactly. ASM is brilliant at pulling defenders towards himself and freeing up space for others, but then most of the time he tries to keep hold of the ball too long and ends up losing it rather than playing in those available players. This is what we mean when we refer to football intelligence. Not only that but given his initial explosive pace, he should be playing on the shoulder more. The fact is the ball is always quicker than you, it’s literally one of the first things every rapid kid should be taught. It’s great being able to beat a man when required, but the best in his position use space and movement to ensure they often don’t have to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Looking forward to the Diaby announcement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 12 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Think if this was agent driven, you'd see more clubs mentioned in the running. The reporting so far seems pretty conclusive. Hmmm it’s just the weird way the articles is written. Being talked about as a done deal without us even making a bid. Feels a bit like an attempt to to get more teams involved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, GeordieDazzler said: Hmmm it’s just the weird way the articles is written. Being talked about as a done deal without us even making a bid. Feels a bit like an attempt to to get more teams involved. The Gordon transfer was also played out very publically with Everton being as leaky as they are. I think the key phrase is "formal bid". It sounds very much like the clubs have an informal agreement in place, probably an overall fee with stuff like payment terms and add-ons to be ironed out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 5 hours ago, The Prophet said: Joking aside, I do find it strange that eyebrows are being raised about Barnes, who's strength is being a direct goal threat who can shoot off both feet but people tug themselves senseless over Diaby, who's strength is being a direct goal threat who can shoot off both feet. Is it just that one plays on the left and the other on the right? I think it's more about the position we're potentially signing, rather than the player himself, who's clearly very good. I dont think anyone would have expected us to sign another LW, given the majority of us think the priority positions for new signings atm are RW, LB and CB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 26 minutes ago, TRon said: Exactly. ASM is brilliant at pulling defenders towards himself and freeing up space for others, but then most of the time he tries to keep hold of the ball too long and ends up losing it rather than playing in those available players. This is what we mean when we refer to football intelligence. This feels like a post from before last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: I think it's more about the position we're potentially signing, rather than the player himself, who's clearly very good. I dont think anyone would have expected us to sign another LW, given the majority of us think the priority positions for new signings atm are RW, LB and CB. That was my thinking. Is the level of scepticism because Diaby plays on right wing and that is generally considered more a priority to upgrade than the left? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: This feels like a post from before last season. Absolutely, I was frustrated last season that he was a bit too hesitant to run at fullbacks and instead played the easy and safe pass too often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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