Kanji Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 Am skeptical about this - could see us walk away from the deal if they want more than our valuation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 If we get him for a fee small enough to enable us to sign an additional established quality player in another position, we've moved from no-brainer to be-rude-not-to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morpeth mag Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 I suspect that we have agreed with Barnes and his agent that his future is at nufc. His agent has just told Leicester their negotiating should be solely with nufc. We have leaked the £25m offer to manage expectations so that £30m with add ons becomes attractive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: No way he's coming for £25 million IMO. Agreed, nor will he be a squad filler. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 Might just be a common Football Manager thing but wonder if we can try and target players who have a release clause which can only be activated for clubs who are in the Champions League Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 Even 30M is fine tbh in this market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viana Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 I think we’re trying to go lower for Barnes knowing that the lad from Frankfurt (Lindstrom) is still an option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 Sounds like this could run for a bit, especially if West Ham come knocking with the Rice money burning a hole. If Leicester know West Ham are interested they’ll play hard ball and it might take 35 million to get this done, in which case it comes down to how badly we want him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 I’d be shocked if we get involved in any sort of bidding war for a player we aren’t in desperate need for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 14 minutes ago, Viana said: I think we’re trying to go lower for Barnes knowing that the lad from Frankfurt (Lindstrom) is still an option. I think we might have a fee agreed with Juventus for Chiesa and would take a shot on Barnes first. If Leicester reject this we will go for Chiesa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 28 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Agreed, nor will he be a squad filler. Aye, if there's one thing we could have done with last season it's a wide player who can score goals for fun He'll come in, score a goal every other game and we'll be wondering what the fuck we were ever going on about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 45 minutes ago, Zero said: I think we might have a fee agreed with Juventus for Chiesa and would take a shot on Barnes first. If Leicester reject this we will go for Chiesa I don’t think we are after Chiesa at all. This looks like last years Paqueta, a fan driven wish for a player. Have we even been linked with him from anyone with some credit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Whitley mag said: Sounds like this could run for a bit, especially if West Ham come knocking with the Rice money burning a hole. If Leicester know West Ham are interested they’ll play hard ball and it might take 35 million to get this done, in which case it comes down to how badly we want him. And also, how badly Barnes wants to come here rather than West Ham. As we've seen with Maddison, the player's wishes carry some weight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 If this is advanced as it sounds, I'll be surprised if it isn't done by the end of next week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgk_lfc Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 A few years ago, he was considered Klopp's top choice as a replacement for Mane and Salah. I do believe LFC reached out to Leicester but the price was too expensive at that time. Then we moved on to other targets and finally ended up with Diaz. I am not surprised at common targets - Barnes, Thuram, Kone - being linked to both of us as I believe some of the player analysts who used to work for LFC have now moved on to work at NUFC. Dan Ashworth and Michael Edwards are close friends and I am sure the team they assembled has a lot of overlaps in terms of the type of players they look for. Around 2015-2017, we had Sterling and Ibe in our youth team. When you looked at attributes - pace, physicality, dribbling ability, shot-taking - Ibe was significantly better than Sterling. However, Sterling had a significantly better career as he was able to put together his attributes more effectively on the pitch. Barnes, in some way, reminds me of Sterling. He has a lot of attributes at a good to very good level but what he is really good at is putting together his strengths to make the whole, greater than the sum of the parts. I have not followed Barnes in the last year and a half but he impressed me when he broke through at Leicester. Also, there was an interesting comment from one of the analysts on Twitter that the more modern clubs are now buying players based on attributes rather than positions and trusting the coaching to mold them. Mane, a right winger became a left winger and striker. Salah, a left winger became a right winger. Gini, an attacking midfielder became a defensive midfielder. Plenty of such examples, actually I would say even more, in City. Gordon is similar, in my opinion. I posted about him a couple of months ago in the Gordon post. Given the fact that we share analysts who have worked for each other, as an outsider, looking at your transfer purchases quickly without any deep thought, the first thing which comes to mind is that aspect - emphasis on what he brings to the pitch on terms of strengths rather than traditional aspects such as what positions does he play etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, rgk_lfc said: A few years ago, he was considered Klopp's top choice as a replacement for Mane and Salah. I do believe LFC reached out to Leicester but the price was too expensive at that time. Then we moved on to other targets and finally ended up with Diaz. I am not surprised at common targets - Barnes, Thuram, Kone - being linked to both of us as I believe some of the player analysts who used to work for LFC have now moved on to work at NUFC. Dan Ashworth and Michael Edwards are close friends and I am sure the team they assembled has a lot of overlaps in terms of the type of players they look for. Around 2015-2017, we had Sterling and Ibe in our youth team. When you looked at attributes - pace, physicality, dribbling ability, shot-taking - Ibe was significantly better than Sterling. However, Sterling had a significantly better career as he was able to put together his attributes more effectively on the pitch. Barnes, in some way, reminds me of Sterling. He has a lot of attributes at a good to very good level but what he is really good at is putting together his strengths to make the whole, greater than the sum of the parts. I have not followed Barnes in the last year and a half but he impressed me when he broke through at Leicester. Also, there was an interesting comment from one of the analysts on Twitter that the more modern clubs are now buying players based on attributes rather than positions and trusting the coaching to mold them. Mane, a right winger became a left winger and striker. Salah, a left winger became a right winger. Gini, an attacking midfielder became a defensive midfielder. Plenty of such examples, actually I would say even more, in City. Gordon is similar, in my opinion. I posted about him a couple of months ago in the Gordon post. Given the fact that we share analysts who have worked for each other, as an outsider, looking at your transfer purchases quickly without any deep thought, the first thing which comes to mind is that aspect - emphasis on what he brings to the pitch on terms of strengths rather than traditional aspects such as what positions does he play etc. That's a great post. It's certainly the modern way. City seem to have players who can play CM or Wide or even a false 9 seamlessly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 It's a good point about buying players who can play multiple positions, although I'm not sure where else Barnes would suit other than LW? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 35m is a steal for an English player aged 25 who’s hit double figures in all competitions for the past three seasons. 25m would almost be daylight robbery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 £30m would be an absolute bargain as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelrouser Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Hanshithispantz said: score a goal every other game He's 25 and has never done this in his career. I would be happy with 10 from the left side next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, rebelrouser said: He's 25 and has never done this in his career. I would be happy with 10 from the left side next year. I wasn't being literal like, but he's hardly been far off it. This season and 20/21. Edited July 9, 2023 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 1 in 3 man which is v. good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 wouldn't be surprised if Fraser goes the other way in this deal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelrouser Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 47 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: I wasn't being literal like, but he's hardly been far off it. This season and 20/21. He should be our best scorer from the left. Let's hope Miggy has another great year on the right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 31 minutes ago, astraguy said: wouldn't be surprised if Fraser goes the other way in this deal I'd be pretty surprised if they wanted him. Expect Fraser to go to the championship, likely on loan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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