MagSA Posted August 30, 2025 Share Posted August 30, 2025 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said: many of them facts without context, which is about as meaningful as a U.S. job report. depends on when you were looking at the jobs reports and your Maga inclinations Edited August 30, 2025 by MagSA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted August 30, 2025 Share Posted August 30, 2025 1 minute ago, joeyt said: Tino is a defender - it's not his job to create Not the point todays game it was his job to create down the left and he didn't skin bogle much at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Posted August 30, 2025 Share Posted August 30, 2025 A fine squad player, a great option coming off the bench but leaves a lot to be desired as a starter. I wouldnt be in a rush to sell him but he's already all the player he's ever going to be, if a decent offer comes in for him then I wouldn't be adverse to moving on from him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 30, 2025 Share Posted August 30, 2025 Just now, andycap said: Not the point todays game it was his job to create down the left and he didn't skin bogle much at all. It was his job today to defend and create on his weak side because of the complete mess of a formation We didn't buy Tino to create but we did buy Barnes to Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagSA Posted August 30, 2025 Share Posted August 30, 2025 2 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said: in early 2023. Prices have become even way more absurd since then. once again, facts without context. Happy to hear your facts then please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted August 30, 2025 Share Posted August 30, 2025 1 minute ago, MagSA said: depends on when you were looking at the jobs reports and your Maga inclinations all of them only list jobs added, and don't take into account many variables so the administration looks good. It could be 4.5 million jizz moppers for all we know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted August 30, 2025 Share Posted August 30, 2025 Just now, MagSA said: Happy to hear your facts then please? I literally included it in the post. Prices for attacking players have skyrocketed since January, 2023. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted August 30, 2025 Share Posted August 30, 2025 1 minute ago, joeyt said: It was his job today to defend and create on his weak side because of the complete mess of a formation We didn't buy Tino to create but we did buy Barnes to Which he does usually every game Barnes plays he puts in atleast one fantastic ball into the area begging to be put in the net. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagSA Posted August 30, 2025 Share Posted August 30, 2025 1 minute ago, Vinny Green Balls said: all of them only list jobs added, and don't take into account many variables so the administration looks good. It could be 4.5 million jizz moppers for all we know. I was referring to whether you were looking at them before or after Trump fired that poor lady. Anyway dude, can we move on from the jobs numbers please. Keen to hear your views on Harvey Barnes performances this season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagSA Posted August 30, 2025 Share Posted August 30, 2025 2 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said: I literally included it in the post. Prices for attacking players have skyrocketed since January, 2023. I get the inflation aspect. Do you think the 45m Anthony Gordon we bought from Everton would cost us 100m today under the same circumstances? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted August 30, 2025 Share Posted August 30, 2025 Just now, MagSA said: I was referring to whether you were looking at them before or after Trump fired that poor lady. Anyway dude, can we move on from the jobs numbers please. Keen to hear your views on Harvey Barnes performances this season He's been poor, but it's only been 3 games, and he just doesn't look up to pace yet. Gordon was dog shit for much of last season. Isak was a passenger at the beginning and end of last season. A bunch of posters were crying about Bruno being a shit captain last year. In all of those cases, some on here totally overreacted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted August 30, 2025 Share Posted August 30, 2025 (edited) 3 minutes ago, MagSA said: I get the inflation aspect. Do you think the 45m Anthony Gordon we bought from Everton would cost us 100m today under the same circumstances? did I ever claim that? But he'd certainly be significantly more than what we got him for in 23. He was worth less than 40 million euros according to transfermarkt, and has increased in value by over 50% since then (according to their assessment). Most attacking players have been going for above the transfermarkt value in the past season. Edited August 30, 2025 by Vinny Green Balls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagSA Posted August 30, 2025 Share Posted August 30, 2025 Just now, Vinny Green Balls said: He's been poor, but it's only been 3 games, and he just doesn't look up to pace yet. Gordon was dog shit for much of last season. Isak was a passenger at the beginning and end of last season. A bunch of posters were crying about Bruno being a shit captain last year. In all of those cases, some on here totally overreacted. Agreed he has been poor. I had a lot of time for Harvey Barnes He gave me the one of the greatest days of my life when I came to watch my first game (v Hammers) at SJP last year. I dont think I am overreacting but I accept that there are posters who do that so I was not thrilled with the generalization. The perfect answer to the issue is he gets back in form and starts contributing with goals. I am looking for more from him though when he is not scoring I don't think thats an unreasonable expectation and we have not seen that 3 games in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 30, 2025 Share Posted August 30, 2025 13 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said: you think Barnes was the reason he decided to switch to a 3-5-2? I'm sorry but that is horse shit. No, and I never said that it was *the* reason. I think his tendency to have games completely pass him by is a factor in Eddie finding it quite easy to put him on the bench and I’m sure helped make his mind up on the system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted August 30, 2025 Share Posted August 30, 2025 1 minute ago, MagSA said: Agreed he has been poor. I had a lot of time for Harvey Barnes He gave me the one of the greatest days of my life when I came to watch my first game (v Hammers) at SJP last year. I dont think I am overreacting but I accept that there are posters who do that so I was not thrilled with the generalization. The perfect answer to the issue is he gets back in form and starts contributing with goals. I am looking for more from him though when he is not scoring I don't think thats an unreasonable expectation and we have not seen that 3 games in. no disagreement there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagSA Posted August 30, 2025 Share Posted August 30, 2025 5 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said: did I ever claim that? But he'd certainly be significantly more than what we got him for in 23. He was worth less than 40 million euros according to transfermarkt, and has increased in value by over 50% since then (according to their assessment). Most attacking players have been going for above the transfermarkt value in the past season. No you did not claim that, a previous poster did, but I was interested in your view hence the question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted September 13, 2025 Share Posted September 13, 2025 Bafflingly abysmal performance in the first half. Not a lot better in the second Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted September 13, 2025 Share Posted September 13, 2025 Will drop out once Gordon's back. Sadly does deserve it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted September 13, 2025 Share Posted September 13, 2025 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted September 13, 2025 Share Posted September 13, 2025 Just now, Kid Icarus said: Hopefully NOT engraved on a bullet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted September 13, 2025 Share Posted September 13, 2025 He's lost a bit of pace like which is sad to see, our left wingers are both struggling for form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted September 13, 2025 Share Posted September 13, 2025 He is struggling at the moment. I've always quite liked him, and he's had his good moments, but overall it's beginning to feel like it might not quite work out for him here. Today in particular felt like one of those days where simply nothing went as intended for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenlau88210 Posted September 13, 2025 Share Posted September 13, 2025 Someone I know who is a Liverpool fan told me he didn't rate Barnes when he first joined us. At that point I watched very little of him, but aware he is a prolific scorer from the wing. Now I totally get why he didn't rate him. He is a mediocre winger with a great strike towards the far post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted September 13, 2025 Share Posted September 13, 2025 Nice guy but sadly lacking. No other champions league team would touch him (which is my simplistic acid test) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted September 13, 2025 Share Posted September 13, 2025 To be fair to the lad, he should have gotten a Wolves man sent off and he had a couple of bright spots. The little interchange on edge of the box was fantastic, just a shame his end product is missing atm. Suprising really as that is something he's been reliable for. I expect he'll improve, as will most the squad. Think we're still finding our feet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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