Viana Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 31 minutes ago, Teasy said: He scored two in one game, how did you think he'd only scored two all season? Anyway he's improved as the season's gone on, he's 28 and English, £12m or even £15m would be insanely low fees. I muddled goals and assists - it happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Just doesn’t make sense. We appoint such a shrewd operator in Dan Ashworth and his latest brainwave is to sign Barnes - a position we are already well stocked in - blowing the last of our budget, and to then just sit back and hope someone signs Maxi so we can scrape by in the remainder of the window?Nah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 I still think the numbers are 100-120m + sales tbh. But at least 100m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Our local press have seemingly been hell bent on putting a budget limit on every single one of our windows post takeover. And got it wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 6 hours ago, LFEE said: I agree with your point overall but let’s be honest the Torres and Coutinho fees/deals were absolute gift horses for LFC. Both players had already peaked and were on the decline physically and in motivation. If we’ve had the best years we feel from these players and decide to sell most will understand but not for another 4 or more seasons. We’ve only just had one full season with them. Coutinho went to Barcelona at 25 turning 26. He was at his peak. Suarez at 27 - his peak. Suarez was only at Liverpool for 3.5 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 6 hours ago, Skeletor said: The Man City model is the correct one to follow. Either selling youngsters or players who are on the way down. They never sell their best players. At present that would be ASM. The Man City model wasn’t FFP complaint. They’ve only started selling well in the last 3 seasons. In large part down to signing young players and moving them in their peak which we can do (Sterling, Zinchenko, Jesus). And a decades worth of investment in the youth setup. That will take us a decade too. 5 hours ago, Viana said: It wouldn't surprise me if the club are actively watching Man City's 115 charges with a view to adapting their own approach. If City basically get a slap on the wrist it's one thing, but if there's a genuine threat of demotion/expulsion then they won't want to follow suit. Aye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 I mean look, there is 100% a budget. Everton cried covid losses as I recall. City is accused of cheating the fuck out of it. Chelsea sells players for good money, has a bunch of commercial deals and snuck in 7 year amortization. This is what I saw on Transfer Market. Newcastle 2023 72M out so far 17M in. Newcastle 2022 185M out 14M in. Newcastle 2021 130.5M out ZERO in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Teasy said: He scored two in one game, how did you think he'd only scored two all season? Anyway he's improved as the season's gone on, he's 28 and English, £12m or even £15m would be insanely low fees. Suggest a club that would spend 15m buying Murphy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 Just now, Zero said: Suggest a club that would spend 15m buying Murphy? Leeds has cash with the parachute payment but he ain't gonna play in the Champo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 1 hour ago, McDog said: Leeds has cash with the parachute payment but he ain't gonna play in the Champo. They spent just 8.5m on a young defender from Liverpool. I suggest those who think we can easily offload the deadwood or sell the player at a decent price, take a look at Transfermarkt, check the deals completed so far and see how this years market is really like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, Zero said: They spent just 8.5m on a young defender from Liverpool. I suggest those who think we can easily offload the deadwood or sell the player at a decent price, take a look at Transfermarkt, check the deals completed so far and see how this years market is really like. We agree on that. The player has to agree and there is wages and other factors. I guess we'll see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 9 hours ago, The Prophet said: If the times is correct £90 million. We love pleading the pauper though, so I'd take it with a pinch of salt. Exactly. Once again I'm not saying players won't need to leave, but no one knows our budget and we feed the media what we want all the time about FFP. We'll probably not do any more business until August after Barnes comes in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 6 hours ago, MrRaspberryJam said: Refuse to believe we’ve blew the lot on only two players when we have such a major competition to play in. How many did we sign 2002/3? Viana & Bramble Woodgate in January The two summer signings were mainly potential but didn't massively improve the quality of the starting XI. Tonali and Barnes are huge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Optimistic Nut said: How many did we sign 2002/3? Viana & Bramble Woodgate in January The two summer signings were mainly potential but didn't massively improve the quality of the starting XI. Tonali and Barnes are huge. And Darren Ambrose in march buddy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 We got the 'budget done' chat last summer until we found £68m down the back of the sofa for Isak. Same again this year, personally i'm just going to let it play out and enjoy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Optimistic Nut said: How many did we sign 2002/3? Viana & Bramble Woodgate in January The two summer signings were mainly potential but didn't massively improve the quality of the starting XI. Tonali and Barnes are huge. And Lee Bowyer on a free for 2003/04. English football is also stronger now than it was then - finishing 4th takes far more quality. 2 hours ago, Scoot said: Exactly. Once again I'm not saying players won't need to leave, but no one knows our budget and we feed the media what we want all the time about FFP. We'll probably not do any more business until August after Barnes comes in. Honestly, it’s not a case of what the owners want to spend - the maths on FFP are public knowledge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSG Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 36 minutes ago, JP said: We got the 'budget done' chat last summer until we found £68m down the back of the sofa for Isak. Same again this year, personally i'm just going to let it play out and enjoy. We all know how it goes. We’ll sign one or two more in the next few weeks, then YAR will fly over in August and authorise a nice new treat for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: And Lee Bowyer on a free for 2003/04. English football is also stronger now than it was then - finishing 4th takes far more quality. Honestly, it’s not a case of what the owners want to spend - the maths on FFP are public knowledge. How much can we spend then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: How much can we spend then? Only the club know the answer to this, far too many variables. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: How much can we spend then? Think the figures in the press are pretty accurate tbh, around 100 million max before player sales. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 That's some hustle by Leicester getting that much for him when Maddison only went for a few quid more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 Feels like a fair deal with 2 years on his contract and the numbers he’s put up in the PL. Not forgetting the English premium Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: How much can we spend then? It’s more urgent to reduce the wage bill by getting rid of Hayden, Ritchie, Hendrick etc imo, than to worry about transfer fees. We’re already massively overstretched and any first team signings will obviously want big money which we can barely afford to give at the present time in relation to incoming regulations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Yorkie said: That's some hustle by Leicester getting that much for him when Maddison only went for a few quid more. All comes down to contract length, really. Tbh in the current market they've probably undersold both of them. Edited July 12, 2023 by ponsaelius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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