Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 18 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said: If we had a 20-20 crystal ball, then you might have a point. No Willock, no Barnes, no Targett, no Tonali, Joelinton , Longstaff, Wilson, Murphy, Burn, and Isak in and out. I’ve no doubt missed absentees. We have by far the most ‘missed days’ and the third best XG in the league. Still made a decent fist of navigating the group of F and tough domestic cup draws. Not much wrong all things considered. Probably missed the most critical one in Pope. Been why our defence has been sitting deeper and giving opposition No10’s all that space to operate in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 (edited) 9 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Still not particularly concerned about this. He was signed because he was available on a loan to buy, it's not like we'd have bought anyone else instead. We'll be committing cash in the summer, but with a full pre-season behind him, I'd expect to see significantly more of him next season. You don’t reckon that Trippier will start most games and Burn on the other side along with Tino when he isn’t playing RB? 30m is something I would use to strengthen the first 11 as a massive priority. Unless Howe thinks Hall will be more or less 1st choice. We also have Targett who seems more trusted atm (before his injury). No idea if we have to sign Hall now or what the deal is. We have too many positions that need strengthening so I would not like us to spend 30m unless he’s certainly going to be a regular. In this case we might as well have gone for Barco for less than 10m. He is very well known and highly rated. Edited January 14 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 2 minutes ago, Ikon said: You don’t reckon that Trippier will start most games and Burn on the other side along with Tino when he isn’t playing RB? 30m is something I would use to strengthen the first 11 as a massive priority. Unless Howe thinks Hall will be more or less 1st choice. We also have Targett who seems more trusted atm (before his injury). No idea if we have to sign Hall now or what the deal is. We have too many positions that need strengthening so I would not like us to spend 30m unless he’s certainly going to be a regular. Think the likes of Targett, Lascelles and Krafth will be moved on this summer as a way of freeing up FFP funds, which will see his path to first team minute look less contested. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a similar renaissance for this lad as we've seen for Gordon this year. It takes time for many to get up to speed with Howe's system Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 1 minute ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said: Think the likes of Targett, Lascelles and Krafth will be moved on this summer as a way of freeing up FFP funds, which will see his path to first team minute look less contested. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a similar renaissance for this lad as we've seen for Gordon this year. It takes time for many to get up to speed with Howe's system Aye hopefully. He just doesn’t seem like a Howe type of LB really. Fingers crossed that it works out if we sign him which seems likely. I’m hoping that Hall is the sign of us becoming slightly more possession based and look to control games more and better going forward. For this we need more technical players. Intensity is good but we can’t rely on that only so I think we need to find a better balance to evolve and get to the next level. This extreme intensity isn’t sustainable, especially when in Europe. We need to be able keep hold of the ball better to control and “rest”. Especially be able to control the possession much better once we recover the ball in our defensive third. Nowadays the opposition comes back straight away with the ball and we have to defend again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 One of the weirdest transfers in history, up there with Nacho Gonzalez and Facundo Fereyra. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krabbe2 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 As the situation with ffp is now, we must not spend a single penny on him. All money must go to quality and to players who will play. Talents can come in 2 rounds (At least expensive) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 What was the rumoured criteria for buying him? 450 minutes or something? Seems pointless even getting to that number. If Ritchie, who can’t even sprint now is seen as a better option most weeks. With Hall getting 5-10 minutes at most or an unused sub every week. Absolutely mental fee if we are close to our FFP ceiling. Not at the stage yet where we can be spending that sort of money on someone that might come good in a few years. That sort of dough should be getting us a first team ready player. Who we (Howe) will start in games and give decent minutes to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 2 hours ago, The College Dropout said: Then Chelsea used that FFP buffer to sign their new talisman. Great idea. We can question the logic behind bringing in a player on an eventual big fee for 3-4 years into the future when we had a demanding schedule this season and weakness in that lads specific position. we didnt have a crystal ball and we had tonali Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 52 minutes ago, mighty__mag said: One of the weirdest transfers in history, up there with Nacho Gonzalez and Facundo Fereyra. come on man. even you dont believe that shite. i'm sure they were both favours for agents and nothing more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 It's a different role to Miley and we have had options in our lb area so been more competition for places but fuck me the lad getting next to no game time either we are very principled in our approach or we have wasted a fair chunk of the summer money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 1 hour ago, Lush Vlad said: What was the rumoured criteria for buying him? 450 minutes or something? Seems pointless even getting to that number. If Ritchie, who can’t even sprint now is seen as a better option most weeks. With Hall getting 5-10 minutes at most or an unused sub every week. Absolutely mental fee if we are close to our FFP ceiling. Not at the stage yet where we can be spending that sort of money on someone that might come good in a few years. That sort of dough should be getting us a first team ready player. Who we (Howe) will start in games and give decent minutes to. Ben Jacobs thinks it's based on our final league position, with some Chelsea journos/ITKs claiming we only need to stay up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Just now, The Prophet said: Ben Jacobs thinks it's based on our final league position, with some Chelsea journos/ITKs claiming we only need to stay up. Oh dear Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Instead of Hall, Palmer would have been great, especially for only 5-10m more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 1 hour ago, Lush Vlad said: Oh dear I still think it has to be minutes played because he only ever seems to be brought on after 80 minutes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 4 hours ago, huss9 said: we didnt have a crystal ball and we had tonali We didn’t know that we needed a first choice LB? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Btw I don’t think Eddie really wanted Livra or Hall. Which explains some of the trepidation about playing them. No prof of course. Just my read. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janpawel Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 19 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Btw I don’t think Eddie really wanted Livra or Hall. Which explains some of the trepidation about playing them. No prof of course. Just my read. Livramento looks like he will be elite imo, has absolutely everything in abundance and is so young, would be mental if this is why Howe took an age to introduce them.... But who knows! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaksbigrightfoot Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 1 minute ago, janpawel said: Livramento looks like he will be elite imo, has absolutely everything in abundance and is so young, would be mental if this is why Howe took an age to introduce them.... But who knows! If you compare Livermento to Hall. You have a gulf in class. Livermento is Trips permanent replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 After Dan Burns recent run of Premier League outings, how this kid can't start is a mystery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 7 minutes ago, mighty__mag said: After Dan Burns recent run of Premier League outings, how this kid can't start is a mystery. Doesn’t seem that mysterious to me - Howe doesn’t rate the lad at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Might aswell start him every game, nothing to play for now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 On 14/01/2024 at 17:59, Isaksbigrightfoot said: If you compare Livermento to Hall. You have a gulf in class. Livermento is Trips permanent replacement. Liveramento should arguably replace Trippier now tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Just now, Holmesy said: Liveramento should arguably replace Trippier now tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Tino will be our best player in 2/3 years time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 13 minutes ago, TRC said: Might aswell start him every game, nothing to play for now. Play the fucker in CM, I don't think there's that many other options. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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