KaKa Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 1 hour ago, Gawalls said: To quote someone’s username- “unbelievable” Um ... not really. You just have to read things properly to fully understand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 24 minutes ago, KaKa said: Yeah ... but Kelly's fitness is far behind still. Thought that would be obvious from what I said in my post this morning. All being equal I think Kelly would have claimed the spot personally. Don't think Hall is the defender he is yet, and Howe is likely to prioritise that. Kelly’s fitness record is not great and he hasn’t even played a single game for us yet, so I don’t think it’s as clear cut as you made out that Hall will be deputising for Kelly at all. It certainly wouldn’t be fair; Howe has always made sure new players have to earn their place and displace existing first XI players. Also a player doing well, which Hall was backend of last season, normally keeps his place. i just found it funny though that you flip flopped from very surprised if Hall starts to almost certain Hall starts from one week to the next based on hardly anything at all. Kelly’s situation hasn’t changed, and neither has Hall’s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 2 minutes ago, Unbelievable said: Kelly’s fitness record is not great and he hasn’t even played a single game for us yet, so I don’t think it’s as clear cut as you made out that Hall will be deputising for Kelly at all. It certainly wouldn’t be fair; Howe has always made sure new players have to earn their place and displace existing first XI players. Also a player doing well, which Hall was backend of last season, normally keeps his place. i just found it funny though that you flip flopped from very surprised if Hall starts to almost certain Hall starts from one week to the next based on hardly anything at all. Kelly’s situation hasn’t changed, and neither has Hall’s. There is no flip flopping. My opinion hasn't changed though. I don't know why this is so difficult to understand. Kelly is not going to start the season if he is yet to even start getting any matches under his belt. We are just over two weeks away. Our issue last season tended to be at the defensive end. And so my expectation had Kelly come in and been involved fully from the outset, was that he would have gotten the spot, because he is the better defender. And so yes, I would have been surprised if Hall got in ahead of him. Kelly appears to be a fair bit behind fitness wise, if he isn't even in the match day squad to come in for some minutes. And so it's fairly obvious Hall has a clear advantage right now. I don't know why this is so hard to grasp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 42 minutes ago, KaKa said: Don't think Lewis has ever made it through a pre season fully fit since Howe joined. Will be interesting to see if he can just manage that alone first. If he can do that then who knows what will happen. We're pretty low on numbers at the minute and so he may end up being kept around. I was pleasantly surprised/thought he played well yesterday, without doing anything particularly remarkable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaj Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 4 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said: I was pleasantly surprised/thought he played well yesterday, without doing anything particularly remarkable. Thought his cross for Isak's header was pretty good and he did really well as part of a team move that saw Isak have a blocked shot early in the second half. Highly doubt he will do anything at Newcastle but if he continues hopefully someone took notice and it might mean we can actually get him a move this summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 48 minutes ago, Unbelievable said: Kelly’s fitness record is not great and he hasn’t even played a single game for us yet, so I don’t think it’s as clear cut as you made out that Hall will be deputising for Kelly at all. It certainly wouldn’t be fair; Howe has always made sure new players have to earn their place and displace existing first XI players. Also a player doing well, which Hall was backend of last season, normally keeps his place. i just found it funny though that you flip flopped from very surprised if Hall starts to almost certain Hall starts from one week to the next based on hardly anything at all. Kelly’s situation hasn’t changed, and neither has Hall’s. I can see why, you’re not wrong mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Ikon said: I can see why, you’re not wrong mate. You've definitely been on the wind up all summer. Don't worry. We'll speak again once the season kicks off! Edited July 28 by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 On the wind up… Have to admire you at times. Self awareness is impressive. I agreed with Unbelievable’s points. If that makes we wum then so be it. Im ok with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 Just under 3 weeks now. Then the football starts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upthemags Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 Many were very quick to dismiss Hall as cannon fodder last season on account of Eddie not playing him, and are now reversing course as his quality has become clear. (It was clear the last 8 games of last season mind.) It was no coincidence there were rumblings of Dortmund being interested a few months ago, especially with their eye for talent. Lad is a baller and it's turned out to be quality transfer business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 I wasn't expecting him to go into this season as a starter either, in fairness. Kelly seemed like too good of a match for Eddie's preferences. But it's definitely looking like he will be now. Which is great. Boosts the idea we can get away without buying a centre back, in fact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 so midfiled options slowly increasing with tonali back soon, hall devloping and hopefully willock getting back to full fitness. think we need another top quality CM but PSR means we can only concentrate on a couple of more important positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 4 hours ago, Upthemags said: Many were very quick to dismiss Hall as cannon fodder last season on account of Eddie not playing him, and are now reversing course as his quality has become clear. (It was clear the last 8 games of last season mind.) It was no coincidence there were rumblings of Dortmund being interested a few months ago, especially with their eye for talent. Lad is a baller and it's turned out to be quality transfer business. The doubt about him was a bit silly TBH. Of course I wanted him to play more but you have to trust his quality and the management team's expertise. He's going to be brilliant for us this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 4 hours ago, Upthemags said: Many were very quick to dismiss Hall as cannon fodder last season on account of Eddie not playing him, and are now reversing course as his quality has become clear. (It was clear the last 8 games of last season mind.) It was no coincidence there were rumblings of Dortmund being interested a few months ago, especially with their eye for talent. Lad is a baller and it's turned out to be quality transfer business. Less of the "baller" please. Do you not read this site that often? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 (edited) 15 hours ago, Rod said: Less of the "baller" please. Do you not read this site that often? 🎵 Hall wishes he was a little bit taller, but he knows he’s a … 🎵 ok, I, for one, will comply with the word of The @Rod Edited July 29 by Coffee_Johnny Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 19 hours ago, 80 said: I wasn't expecting him to go into this season as a starter either, in fairness. Kelly seemed like too good of a match for Eddie's preferences. But it's definitely looking like he will be now. Which is great. Boosts the idea we can get away without buying a centre back, in fact. With the injuries we still need a CB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checko Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 I was bored so I've written Newcastle United Fan Lewis Hall a poem to commemorate a good preseason performance: Baller Oh Lewis Hall, Lewis Hall, I love your perfectly weighted balls. If only you were tall! Lewis Hall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 6 minutes ago, Checko said: I was bored so I've written Newcastle United Fan Lewis Hall a poem to commemorate a good preseason performance: Baller Oh Lewis Hall, Lewis Hall, I love your perfectly weighted balls. If only you were tall! Lewis Hall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Breakout season incoming Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 And some people said he shouldn’t be starting the season for us 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Just now, SUPERTOON said: And some people said he shouldn’t be starting the season for us 😂 As if the end of last season wasn’t properly convincing already Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 2 minutes ago, Jack27 said: Breakout season incoming Keep this up and he'll have his first senior cap this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Looks like Southgate has fucked up, the new England left back for the next 15 years has just turned up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Excited by this lad like, his development looks amazing. I love a good LB, gives so much balance and so long as his defensive nous continues to improve, that alongside his passing range gives him great versatility. 28m could be a relative bargain. I remember summer of 92 when we signed Beresford from Pompey, he transformed that side of our team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 On 28/07/2024 at 22:01, Upthemags said: Many were very quick to dismiss Hall as cannon fodder last season on account of Eddie not playing him, and are now reversing course as his quality has become clear. (It was clear the last 8 games of last season mind.) It was no coincidence there were rumblings of Dortmund being interested a few months ago, especially with their eye for talent. Lad is a baller and it's turned out to be quality transfer business. I’m one of them - was scratching my head why during an injury crisis Howe wasn’t giving him minutes. Assumed that there was an issue with the lad’s game - clearly I was wrong! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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