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AC Milan 0-0 Newcastle United (19/09/23)

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jack j

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15 minutes ago, Curva Sud Milano said:

I was impressed by your defense, trippier, schar and botman above all... the goalkeeper is not a goalkeeper of a team that has ambitions (yesterday he played well but I saw other matches in which he was horrible). Seeing Tonali not playing in the middle of the pitch but on the right surprised all in San Siro. Disappointed by the fans...4000 but completely silent, I know that in England the stadiums are not noisy but I had heard that you were among the hottest. See you in Newcastle..

Tonali played on the left of our midfield 3

Nick Pope has been top class for us. Not the best with the ball at his feet but his shot stopping has saved us plenty

Dissapointed to here that our fans were shit

But doesn't surprise me sadly. Our away support isn't what it used to be.

Will Milan sell the full 3 thousand tickets for over here do you think?

 

 

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Gallowgate Toon

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1 hour ago, The College Dropout said:

Milan didn’t look to exploit those areas much. Their wingers were wide and more interested in going 1v1 with our FBs. But they still found plenty of space there. 
 

We didn’t come to press so why didn’t we sit in a compact bank? We struggled to play through Liverpools 10 man bank because it was tight and compact. 

If the space was as wide open as you're saying then they absolutely would've exploited it more. I can't imagine their primary gameplan would really be so many crosses against a very & tall aerially-strong defence so there's a good chance that we preferred to draw them into those areas and let them have a go.

 

We did look to press at the beginning. From their GKs, we set up high as we do against pretty much everyone and we actually did get at their CBs in possession quite a few times especially in the first 10 minutes or so.

 

We settled into more of a midblock once they'd beaten the press a few times which is fine. We still wanted to be in a proactive enough shape to keep a hold of possession, turn second balls into counters, and build a platform for attacks. We actually had the ball in the final third a decent enough amount to be able to do some damage but linking of play was poor there and we lost it very, very cheaply on multiple occasions.

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In these games it is clear that you are missing at least a player with the X factor: a player with dribbling and skills who can scare defenses. You had ASM and you sold him for Barnes... And you lost money. Crazy. 

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The College Dropout

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2 minutes ago, Gallowgate Toon said:

If the space was as wide open as you're saying then they absolutely would've exploited it more. I can't imagine their primary gameplan would really be so many crosses against a very & tall aerially-strong defence so there's a good chance that we preferred to draw them into those areas and let them have a go.

 

We did look to press at the beginning. From their GKs, we set up high as we do against pretty much everyone and we actually did get at their CBs in possession quite a few times especially in the first 10 minutes or so.

 

We settled into more of a midblock once they'd beaten the press a few times which is fine. We still wanted to be in a proactive enough shape to keep a hold of possession, turn second balls into counters, and build a platform for attacks. We actually had the ball in the final third a decent enough amount to be able to do some damage but linking of play was poor there and we lost it very, very cheaply on multiple occasions.

There's no number 10 for them. They play with a DM and two 8's like us. Same thing as Brentford. They had 5 proper defenders. 3 hard working central midfielders and 2 strikers. No 10. If teams have weakness in the half space against us - how would we exploit it? We don't play like that.

 

Their wingers are like inside forwards. They want to get 1v1 against fullbacks or run in behind.

 

And even then. RLC got the wrong side of Tonali a couple of times which led to openings they should've done better with. And Florenzi and one of the subs found themselves between defence and attack a couple of times which led to shots on goal.

 

But every team that actually has players looking to exploit that space - Villa, City, Brighton in particular - they've had lots of joy.

 

We setup high from GK's but didn't get close to them. The Milan back 5 has good technical ability to play itself out of danger so that would be why that didn't work from what I saw.

 

No, we weren't in a good shape to turn loose balls into counterattacks. That's why players would run like Almiron and just lose the ball or play an over-ambitious pass. We were not in good positions because everyone was super deep defending Milan. Milan didn't press us so we had decent possession with defenders and could move to the halfway line. But with a little pressure, we just went backwards. Didn't put together a single decent passing move all game - again.

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12 minutes ago, Curva Sud Milano said:

 

U are right...i was in Curva Sud and I saw him on my right in the first half :lol:.

I would move Bruno and put Tonali in the middle.

 

 

What exactly are Tonali's main strengths in your opinion? It's early days with us so I've faith that he'll come good; but he's not looked comfortable at any point since his very promising debut. He doesn't make an impact in possession and is routinely caught flat-footed off the ball. That run he made to the byline in the first few minutes last night is the first positive thing we've seen him do since the first week of the season. 

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Curva Sud Milano

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14 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

What exactly are Tonali's main strengths in your opinion? It's early days with us so I've faith that he'll come good; but he's not looked comfortable at any point since his very promising debut. He doesn't make an impact in possession and is routinely caught flat-footed off the ball. That run he made to the byline in the first few minutes last night is the first positive thing we've seen him do since the first week of the season. 

he is a modern midfielder with great resistance and excellent feet, he knows how to set up the game and act well in coverage... he is a very shy boy and his first year at Milan was terrible, he exploded in the second year when he took over the keys to the midfield . However he has to play central instead of Bruno... you have Bruno there not Xavi.

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47 minutes ago, Curva Sud Milano said:

I was impressed by your defense, trippier, schar and botman above all... the goalkeeper is not a goalkeeper of a team that has ambitions (yesterday he played well but I saw other matches in which he was horrible). Seeing Tonali not playing in the middle of the pitch but on the right surprised all in San Siro. Disappointed by the fans...4000 but completely silent, I know that in England the stadiums are not noisy but I had heard that you were among the hottest. See you in Newcastle..

 

You can't just sign up on  here and start slagging our boy Pope off and expect to get away with it.

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2 minutes ago, KingArthur said:

I think it is unfair to say people should be happy at draw and shut up. Draw is a brilliant result against Milan in CL. We can still be worried about the performance. Tonali will come good, he is finding his feet. No problem there.

 

Worried about relegation, worried about the transfer window, worried about variations in form, worried about Bruno leaving, worried about signing Gordon, worried about the transfer window being a missed opportunity, worried about creativity, worried about the defence, worried about qualifying for the Champions League, worried about another transfer window, worried about the midfield, worried about Bruno staying, worried about playing in the Champions League.

 

It's like a parody at this point. Too many folk spend so much time worrying, they're missing an amazing time to support the club. The path to success isn't linear, it's best to enjoy it and roll with the punches

 

Nothing wrong with analysing performances, where we went wrong, where we can improve and the like, but Christ it's done in such a dramatic "the sky is falling in" fashion we've even had other clubs fans commenting on it. We've just come away from the San Siro with a point, after our first Champions League game for 20 years having been no where near our best, yet I feel like we've just walked into a funeral. 

 

The "b" word needs breaking out again.

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Lush Vlad

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How good was Tomori last night, by the way?  Based on that, he should be an England regular.  He looked rapid, was aggressive with following Isak, who I thought did well in the circumstances and  he covered the left channel well when Hernandez had fucked off up the pitch.  

 

How much would he cost.........

 

 

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Rewatched the game last night, I actually thought we played OK. Sure, Milan probably should have won it, but we played some decent stuff in midfield. We looked toothless in the final third mind, but there was a fair amount of decent build up. We failed to create when chances did come about, 

Milan looked very solid in defence and were the better side in attack as well, but it wasn't as bad a performance as I first thought. 

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