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To go away to that ground against a side like that and take a point in our first CL for 20 years is amazing work and I think most of us would have taken that before kick off. 
 

It had to be said though, the performance tonight was slack in many areas. We were fortunate to come away with that point, there has been a lot made of this game and perhaps the players went in nervy because even after we shifted to the mid block in the second half there was hardly any composure that you’d expect from certain players. We lacked mentally tonight imo. Maybe we grow into this competition and maybe not, either way I’m here to enjoy every single game we get. 

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12 minutes ago, Chris_R said:

I have such polarised opinions on this game.

 

On the one hand, going to the San Siro and getting a point is a brilliant result, and a great start to being back in the CL after 20 years away.

 

On the other hand, not having a shot on target until the 94th minute is fucking criminal, and indicative of a team that just hasn't turned up.

 

Basically if they'd put a couple of their chances away, we'd have had no complaints at all and would now be launching an inquest into why we were so shit. But they didn't, and we got a draw. Weird game.

 

Yeah, feel much the same.

 

Heard about some study a while back about people being essentially the same people no matter what happens to them. A curmudgeon will be a curmudgeon if they win the lottery. And a happy-go-lucky character will be a happy-go-lucky character if they break their leg.

 

Feels much the same on the forum. Some are just happy to be here, and a point vindicates that positivity. Even thought a loss would have been managed within the context of it being against CL opposition, first game in CL in ages etc etc.

 

Some want to see us play the best they are capable of doing, even if that isn't always possible for a variety of very credible reasons, and having only one 94th-minute shot on goal vindicates their desire to see team's talent showcased more effectively.

 

While appreciating the players are giving it their all, I'm probably closer to the second of the two ends of the spectrum, but you've nailed it tbh - a different result with the same performance often yields a complete re-framing of how people spin the game to their own natural predisposition :lol:

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5 minutes ago, Mahoneys Tache said:

Fucks sake man. 0-0 away in the San Siro after 20 years and about a decade out of European football. What a bunch of fannies. 
fucking brilliant result. 
the change from ‘we just want a team that tries’ to unrealistic expectations is breathtakingly fast. 
‘Concerning performance’. Are you fucking kidding? 
 


Don’t get wound up by the internet, it’ll only drive you nuts, it’s not real.

 

This place is like Twitter at times.

 

Ideal World we show a bit more going forward and impose ourselves a bit more but in reality, we’ve gone to the San Siro in the CL and got a point in the opening game. We should all be celebrating how far we’ve come rather than bemoaning where we aren’t . 

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Just a personal and unprofessional outlook but I'm not bothered about performances in games like that. Its not indicative of anything unless the status quo was to comfortably beat them.

I wasn't looking for that on either of the last two CL seasons either, like this just not to get battered at a new level, especially with Barcelona and away at Milan.

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33 minutes ago, Paullow said:

Great point, certainly would have taken that at the start of the game, but the performance was concerning. They are an iconic club, with a brilliant stadium and vast Champions League experience, but player for player, the difference shouldn't have been like that. They were around 6/4 pre match, we were 7/4, so almost 50/50, but the way the game panned out youd think we were some 6/1 no mark making up the numbers like a Plzen or Antwerp. 

 

Liverpool would have been much more in the game there and wouldn't hsve been dominated, but we do look well off it at the moment.

 

Still, good point though. 7 points at home and maybe nick another away point on the road and we should be in and around 2nd, but we'll hsve to be much better than that, and I would expect us to improve at home.

 

I don't think our players are as good as Milan's, and Liverpool's are miles better. We've got ourselves into this position through great management and team spirit. We have to be realistic and not expect too much. 

 

We had Murphy, Longstaff, and Schar starting, with Miggy and Wilson coming on for major roles. All players who two years ago were in a side heading for relegation with 20 points.

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2 minutes ago, Beren said:

 

Yeah, feel much the same.

 

Heard about some study a while back about people being essentially the same people no matter what happens to them. A curmudgeon will be a curmudgeon if they win the lottery. And a happy-go-lucky character will be a happy-go-lucky character if they break their leg.

 

Feels much the same on the forum. Some are just happy to be here, and a point vindicates that positivity. Even thought a loss would have been managed within the context of it being against CL opposition, first game in CL in ages etc etc.

 

Some want to see us play the best they are capable of doing, even if that isn't always possible for a variety of very credible reasons, and having only one 94th-minute shot on goal vindicates their desire to see team's talent showcased more effectively.

 

While appreciating the players are giving it their all, I'm probably closer to the second of the two ends of the spectrum, but you've nailed it tbh - a different result with the same performance often yields a complete re-framing of how people spin the game to their own natural predisposition :lol:

 

Mate, don't ruin the magic. [emoji38]

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2 minutes ago, Cronky said:

 

I don't think our players are as good as Milan's, and Liverpool's are miles better. We've got ourselves into this position through great management and team spirit. We have to be realistic and not expect too much. 

 

We had Murphy, Longstaff, and Schar starting, with Miggy and Wilson coming on for major roles. All players who two years ago were in a side heading for relegation with 20 points.

Read this after my previous. Agree with this. 

Decent point away. 

The end

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2 minutes ago, Beren said:

 

Yeah, feel much the same.

 

Heard about some study a while back about people being essentially the same people no matter what happens to them. A curmudgeon will be a curmudgeon if they win the lottery. And a happy-go-lucky character will be a happy-go-lucky character if they break their leg.

 

Feels much the same on the forum. Some are just happy to be here, and a point vindicates that positivity. Even thought a loss would have been managed within the context of it being against CL opposition, first game in CL in ages etc etc.

 

Some want to see us play the best they are capable of doing, even if that isn't always possible for a variety of very credible reasons, and having only one 94th-minute shot on goal vindicates their desire to see team's talent showcased more effectively.

 

While appreciating the players are giving it their all, I'm probably closer to the second of the two ends of the spectrum, but you've nailed it tbh - a different result with the same performance often yields a complete re-framing of how people spin the game to their own natural predisposition :lol:

The happy go lucky person won't be miserable during the process though. A small minority on here seem to refuse any small shred of happiness. 

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Way I see it if you just looked at the result and only the result against that side your pleased. The stats and in game play was so sloppy at times we struggled to keep the ball headers and lobby the ball forward doesn't allow you to control the game and increases the chance of losing possession. Early attacks near the end of our half were quickly snuffed out and in the first half we sat deep but also seemed to leave alot of space in the middle for them to roam and break forward. 

 

If they had anyone who could put the ball away we would have lost but we just didn't look like scoring. 

 

A point on the board and we didn't embarrass ourselves. Hopefully can give teams more of a game at home.

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3 minutes ago, Cronky said:

 

I don't think our players are as good as Milan's, and Liverpool's are miles better. We've got ourselves into this position through great management and team spirit. We have to be realistic and not expect too much. 

 

We had Murphy, Longstaff, and Schar starting, with Miggy and Wilson coming on for major roles. All players who two years ago were in a side heading for relegation with 20 points.

I don't always agree with you, but well said here, buddy.

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Just now, STM said:

 

Mate, don't ruin the magic. [emoji38]

 

:lol:

 

To be fair, I should say I thought Newcastle did much more than just graft hard tonight. I don't think there was much cutting edge, but for decent spells we had good possession and composure in other areas of the pitch that at least half the other Premiership sides are incapable of doing. There was also enough threat of a threat (:laugh:) that kept AC Milan honest too.

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Could have been 5-0, could have been 0-1, will happily take 0-0.

 

We rolled with the punches and, read this back, competed and got a result in the Champions League away to AC Milan. So proud!

 

Pope: 8.5

Trippier: 9.5

Schar: 7.5

Botman: 7.5

Burn: 7

Bruno: 6.5

Tonali: 6.5

Longstaff: 7

Gordon: 6

Isak: 6

Murphy: 6

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I know they're collectively not particularly great, but it does make me smile thinking of Burn, Longstaff and Anderson playing in the San Siro. Local lads taking on AC Milan, living out all our dreams. Makes me very proud!

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Hard watch at times. Rode our luck at times. A bit naive with some of our play and certainly got a lesson in the dark arts and shithousery from the wiley Italians, tonight. No end of niggly fouls, shirt pulls, the same player fouling over and over from them and getting away with it. We barely made a tactical foul after the first 10 minutes and just seemed a bit too ‘nice’ all round for my liking. A far cry from our usual cuntish behaviour. Didn’t like all the checking on their players and handshakes at half time, I must say. But that’s just me. An aggro charva. 

I think we we were really careless and sloppy on the ball at times, too. Which was understandable when they put so much in. But also resulted in quite a few attacks dying on their arse and also quite a few chances for them from our own fuck ups. 

 

All that said. I’m buzzing with the result. Thinking objectively, I thought we’d get beat comfortably to nil prior to the game. But bar a couple of moments. We defended really well and limited them to long shots and half chances that just fell kindly for them in the box. 

Pope was brilliant. Botman was a Colossus. Trippier was probably the best player on the pitch.   


A long way to go. But a solid start. 

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