James Trafford: NUFC in talks with Burnley over £30m transfer (SkySports)

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Young good English players tend to cost loads. Sorting your keeper for 5-10 years is pretty valuable. 

[JT24]

3 minutes ago, JP said:

 

A slight 6 foot 6 

@Rich

[Fenham Mag]

1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Young good English players tend to cost loads. Sorting your keeper for 5-10 years is pretty valuable. 

 

Yep - best business Everton ever did was get Pickford, he's arguably their best player of the last 10 years and has kept them in the PL. 

 

 

Edited 21 hours ago by Fenham Mag

[JT24]

Before it descends into chaos, he isn’t 6ft6. 

[ponsaelius]

Keepers seem almost impossible to value for me. Pickford was £30 million a decade ago. Kepa was 70 million. So to me 30 seems pretty cheap in that context.

 

That being said the lad is only proven really in the Championship up to now, and Burnley have to consider that he may be about to have 12 months of conceding goals and then have a year left on his deal next summer. So it is in their interests probably to cash in now and get an experienced goalie.

[SUPERTOON]

Be a good signing, I never get excited by keeper signings though 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Just now, SUPERTOON said:

Be a good signing, I never get excited by keeper signings though 

In the past I didn’t, now I do. We’ve seen how much better we look with Pope v Dubs. Imagine if Pope could also kick.  

[Lush Vlad]

5 minutes ago, jack j said:

Not seen that much of him tbh

Is he Ederson levels with his feet 

Is he as commanding as Pope is in the box and sweeping up?

Not that big is he?

 

He's definitely not 6ft 6".  Think it's been mentioned a few times on here that keepers and clubs seem to get creative with their heights   

 

Very good with his feet and looks calm as you like.  Nowhere near as commanding as Pope or as aggressive off his line, crosses are his weakness, even.  Although I'd say he's much more active than Dubravka with the sweeping up.

 

Not seen much of him this season, mind and probably not fair to judge him on his Prem season.  As he was very young and playing in that suicidal setup under Kompnay.  But he made loads of howlers. 

 

I think £30-40m seems steep and it's the English premium at play, yet again.  But if the club want him and think he is only going to improve, then who cares.  I didn't realise he is still only 22.  A baby in keeper terms. 

[jack j]

10 minutes ago, Crimson Cardigan said:

Are these serious questions? He’s young. If he had Ederson levels with his feet and was as commanding as Pope he’d already be at Real Madrid.

 

 

 

40 million for a keeper who has barely played top flight football is a lot. You'd think he'd have some outstanding attributions to be worth that

[Optimistic Nut]

1 minute ago, Lush Vlad said:

 

He's definitely not 6ft 6".  Think it's been mentioned a few times on here that keepers and clubs seem to get creative with their heights   

 

Very good with his feet and looks calm as you like.  Nowhere near as commanding as Pope or as aggressive off his line, crosses are his weakness, even.  Although I'd say he's much more active than Dubravka with the sweeping up.

 

Not seen much of him this season, mind and probably not fair to judge him on his Prem season.  As he was very young and playing in that suicidal setup under Kompnay.  But he made loads of howlers. 

 

I think £30-40m seems steep and it's the English premium at play, yet again.  But if the club want him and think he is only going to improve, then who cares.  I didn't realise he is still only 22.  A baby in keeper terms. 

 

£30m for a keeper that age and who will likely be England's number 1 within the next few years seems brilliant value to me mind. 

[Fenham Mag]

Good mates with Anthony Gordon too, keep him happy after losing his bestie Anderson.

[timeEd32]

In terms of maximizing our budget selling Pope to Leeds or somewhere makes a lot of sense.

 

That puts a lot on Trafford though and carries risk. Will be interesting to see what we do.

[Optimistic Nut]

2 minutes ago, jack j said:

40 million for a keeper who has barely played top flight football is a lot. You'd think he'd have some outstanding attributions to be worth that

 

How much would a 20-22 year old English striker who'd scored 30 in the Championship last season cost?  Could probably go 18-19 year old striker as a more appropriate comparison given how keepers tend to be at their peak slightly older. He's pretty much done the goalkeeping equivalent of that, anyway. 

 

 

Edited 21 hours ago by Optimistic Nut

[Nine]

Would be a huge improvement to us, a keeper with feet was near the top of my wanted list so I’m hopeful of this.

[Fak]

2 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

£30m for a keeper that age and who will likely be England's number 1 within the next few years seems brilliant value to me mind. 

 

I think you're paying that much for his future potential not just for his ability at the present.

[Lush Vlad]

Just now, Optimistic Nut said:

 

£30m for a keeper that age and who will likely be England's number 1 within the next few years seems brilliant value to me mind. 

 

See, I'm not as sold on him being England's number one or the fact that it would even mean anything other than we don't have loads of decent keeper options.  He's yet to prove it at this level and also show his quality when not playing behind an ultra conservative team and defence.  We often play quite an expansive and open game in comparison.  

 

But as I mentioned, the club have clearly been sweet on him for a while.  They will have done far more extensive scouting than me watching the odd Burnley game or highlights  

 

It also is worth remembering he is very young, which I do keep forgetting somehow.  So in theory, he should only improve from here.

[Ikon]

My guess is that we get him for 30m with 8 on top of that being different bonuses like qualifying for the CL or similar. Anything cheaper would be great. 

[HawK]

39 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

It's never excited me, but I have a feeling it's one of those where it will look better every game next season. A bit like Pope really.

 

It will be interesting to see how much impact his ability to play the ball out will have on our game. It might be something we don't appreciate until we see it in action. 

 

Aye, if you've read any of my previous points around transfers/tactics, I've always maintained the most transformative signing for our first XI would be a ball playing keeper.

 

I just hope we go into the new season with added depth of quality in central midfield and a cover striker. Willock/Longstaff/Wilson is not the answer for this season imo.

[Optimistic Nut]

3 minutes ago, Fak said:

 

I think you're paying that much for his future potential not just for his ability at the present.

 

We could have used a young Greek guy but it won't happen in the end, we'll have to let him go, he was rubbish. He was rubbish. 

[B-more Mag]

I’m reserving judgment until I see a photo of his measured height on the family door jamb. 

[GeordieDazzler]

Lack of other outlets following up this story makes me think it’s a case of Sky Sports repackaging ongoing interest as breaking news. 

[Menace]

How is Alan Nixon still even relevant  

[Ikon]

Just now, GeordieDazzler said:

Lack of other outlets following up this story makes me think it’s a case of Sky Sports repackaging ongoing interest as breaking news. 

They will come out like blood hounds soon despite not really knowing anything/details. Might as well be quiet. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I don't think Burnley getting promoted should impact the price like. If anything they need the money less, and he's a season closer to the end of his contract. 

[Menace]

 

 

Absolute state of this