The College Dropout Posted Wednesday at 13:26 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:26 3 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I don’t think we’ve had a really top keeper apart from Given. Would include Pope as well in modern times. Pope’s better than Given. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted Wednesday at 13:39 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:39 12 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Pope’s better than Given. Controversial Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monters Posted Wednesday at 13:40 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:40 12 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Pope’s better than Given. Different era's but Given was top quality... I've sat in St. James in wonderment at some of the saves he made. One game in particular against Liverpool he basically kept us in it single handed, so much so he came out early after half time whilst the shower of shite stayed in the tunnel! We still get whacked in the end but that was the norm under the wonderful Big Fat Sam! As documented in other threads I'm a big fan of Pope but your statement just feels very dismissive of Shay and his quality and length of service Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted Wednesday at 13:48 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:48 Goalkeeping has changed so much in 20 years. When I watch Shay Given footage now he seems far too far off his line and a dwarf in the goal. That aside he was absolutely class mind. Nowadays you've got to be a monster to play in goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted Wednesday at 13:50 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:50 24 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Pope’s better than Given. No Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted Wednesday at 13:51 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:51 2 minutes ago, STM said: Goalkeeping has changed so much in 20 years. When I watch Shay Given footage now he seems far too far off his line and a dwarf in the goal. That aside he was absolutely class mind. Nowadays you've got to be a monster to play in goal. Might be obscured by the mists of time but I don’t remember any howlers, either? Pope has a couple in his locker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonalis Bookie Posted Wednesday at 13:53 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:53 26 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Pope’s better than Given. Currently yes.... historically not a chance, you cant win a league with a keeper who makes clangers 1 in 4 games, Given didn't Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted Wednesday at 13:56 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:56 Absolutely no chance Pope is better than Given. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon1984 Posted Wednesday at 14:01 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:01 34 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Pope’s better than Given. Whiiiizzzz……… plop…… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted Wednesday at 14:01 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:01 10 minutes ago, STM said: Goalkeeping has changed so much in 20 years. When I watch Shay Given footage now he seems far too far off his line and a dwarf in the goal. That aside he was absolutely class mind. Nowadays you've got to be a monster to play in goal. Nick Pope is England #1 20 years ago imo. Shay was an elite shot stopper. But he didn’t dominate his box in an era that was a key skill. And it felt like he rarely saved penalties. He couldn’t kick much either iirc. I saw an interview Shay did with Nick Pope - there’s no way Shay could command a box like Pope does. Pope towers over him. I love Shay - I think he speaks with the most knowledge and heart from all ex Newcastle players on TV. But always thought he was over rated. Got knocked off #1 in his prime by Joe Hart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GideonShandy Posted Wednesday at 14:11 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:11 4 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I don’t think we’ve had a really top keeper apart from Given. Would include Pope as well in modern times. We had this season's Golden Gloves winner Mats Sels . . . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted Wednesday at 14:12 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:12 Prime Pope was better than prime Given. Prime Given was better than current Pope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted Wednesday at 14:44 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:44 51 minutes ago, Dr Venkman said: Might be obscured by the mists of time but I don’t remember any howlers, either? Pope has a couple in his locker. I'd refer you to Given being the only Irishman to not know where Dublin was :-) But they were really few and far between Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teslact Posted Wednesday at 15:05 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:05 1 hour ago, Dr Venkman said: Might be obscured by the mists of time but I don’t remember any howlers, either? Pope has a couple in his locker. Dion Dublin enters the chat: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted Wednesday at 15:07 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:07 1 minute ago, Teslact said: Dion Dublin enters the chat: Ha yeah was gonna say he made one worst GK mistakes ever in history of football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted Wednesday at 15:17 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:17 Cracking ball in by Gillespie for the equaliser mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted Wednesday at 15:24 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:24 1 hour ago, Shearergol said: Prime Pope was better than prime Given. Prime Given was better than current Pope. And pre-serious injury Krul was better than them both (runs for cover) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted Wednesday at 15:26 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:26 I think prime Pope is better than prime Krul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emotic Posted Wednesday at 15:29 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:29 24 minutes ago, Teslact said: Dion Dublin enters the chat: "The only Irishman who didn't know where Dublin was." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted Wednesday at 15:30 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:30 1 minute ago, gbandit said: I think prime Pope is better than prime Krul I think of that game away at Spurs for instance and it was the closest to a Schmeichel-like performance I’ve seen from a Newcastle Keeper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted Wednesday at 15:31 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:31 1 minute ago, Emotic said: "The only Irishman who didn't know where Dublin was." I was thinking about that joke today. Mad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted Wednesday at 17:34 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:34 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ben said: Controversial Not for me. Given carried out us at a time we had a pretty average defence. Kicking wasn't as much of an issue 20-25 years ago but his agility and shot-stopping was world class. He'd have fucking loved playing behind this back 4. Edited Wednesday at 17:37 by Optimistic Nut Blunt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted Wednesday at 17:38 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:38 2 hours ago, gbandit said: I think prime Pope is better than prime Krul Given > Pope > Krul > Marc Ziegler > Matz Sels Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted Wednesday at 17:38 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:38 Hardy’s latest article on Trafford. Says nothing of note other than we hope £25-30m will be enough and we want to keep Pope regardless: https://x.com/timessport/status/1930308569221505313?s=46&t=OQLMckSuatbpqWF13Al4mQ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted Wednesday at 19:26 Share Posted Wednesday at 19:26 4 hours ago, Fak said: Cracking ball in by Gillespie for the equaliser mind. Rob Lee's goal decent as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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