KaKa Posted Wednesday at 16:50 Share Posted Wednesday at 16:50 2 minutes ago, Yorkie said: what an absolute farce that article paints. If it's true then I'm basically just entirely against having a SD at all, if I was ever in favour. Howe has made a mockery of the idea that we need one, much less someone with those apparent character traits. Canny that, for once, we've fallen on the right side of a sliding doors moment, mind you. Reads as though Eales wanted Howe out and Mitchell was a step towards that by him. Crazy stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted Wednesday at 16:53 Share Posted Wednesday at 16:53 So you're saying this guy was a power hungry weirdo? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted Wednesday at 16:54 Share Posted Wednesday at 16:54 7 minutes ago, Novocastrian said: Eales doesn’t come out well in that article. Why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted Wednesday at 16:54 Share Posted Wednesday at 16:54 4 minutes ago, KaKa said: Reads as though Eales wanted Howe out and Mitchell was a step towards that by him. Crazy stuff. I dunno about that but it was evidently a bad appointment and one not made via any sensible process. Minor miracle Howe stuck it out, I can think of one previous manager who wouldn't have done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted Wednesday at 16:56 Share Posted Wednesday at 16:56 Can't lie kind of glad Eales is leaving as well having read that. Obviously hope his recovery goes well outside of that though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted Wednesday at 16:56 Share Posted Wednesday at 16:56 (edited) 6 minutes ago, KaKa said: Reads as though Eales wanted Howe out and Mitchell was a step towards that by him. Crazy stuff. That's maybe a bit strong, but my belief - happy to be proven wrong - is that Eales is happiest running a generic, paint by numbers corporate operation and has generally tried to squash every part of us into that shape, on and off pitch. Individuality and distinctive talent is a threat to that kind of person. Edited Wednesday at 16:57 by 80 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted Wednesday at 16:58 Share Posted Wednesday at 16:58 (edited) Classic textbook cunt manager. Eddie's much more a people and individuals guy. Was doomed to fail . IMO no loss. Edited Wednesday at 16:59 by La Parka Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted Wednesday at 16:59 Share Posted Wednesday at 16:59 1 minute ago, Yorkie said: I dunno about that but it was evidently a bad appointment and one not made via any sensible process. Minor miracle Howe stuck it out, I can think of one previous manager who wouldn't have done. Just now, 80 said: That's maybe a bit strong, but my belief - happy to be proven wrong - is that Eales is happiest running a generic, paint by numbers corporate operation and has generally tried to squash every part of us into that shape, on and off pitch. Yeah, maybe a bit strong perhaps. But definitely seemed he was uncomfortable with the whole Mehrad, Amanda and Howe dynamic. Wasn't there talk he reported back to PIF about it which led to the change, with the Mitchell hiring then coming after? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted Wednesday at 17:01 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:01 In the last match cam that showed the celebrations on the pitch, there was a bit where Eddie was embracing Eales, and whilst you couldn’t hear what was being said, it looked like Eddie was thanking him for everything he’d done. It looked absolutely genuine on both sides, and there didn’t appear to be the slightest bit of animosity. But, maybe Eddie’s just a magnificent human that doesn’t hold unnecessary grudges 🤷♂️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted Wednesday at 17:01 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:01 It took only a few days, but after arriving on Tyneside and approaching diplomacy the same way a bull does china, the writing was on the wall for Paul Mitchell. He was shocked and disappointed when Mail Sport revealed that his opening addresses to players and staff were not well received. Maybe he did intend well. And maybe, it was hoped back then, he would soften his abrasive manner in light of the early feedback. That, it is said, did not happen, and his exit after less than a year as sporting director will not be mourned by the majority at St James’ Park. Some very quickly suspected he wanted his own manager at the expense of Eddie Howe. Players spoke of Mauricio Pochettino, who Mitchell worked with at Tottenham, being that man, not that they welcomed the thought of losing Howe. Rather, they and many inside the training ground were concerned about the content and delivery of Mitchell’s initial meetings and what it could mean for the future of Howe and the club. He walked into those introductions not with a blueprint, but sandpaper He spoke of being ‘elite’. Players and staff thought their work in taking the team from 19th to the Champions League already fitted that description. He spoke about playing style. They thought that was Howe’s domain. He spoke about going on a journey with him. They thought the journey was well underway and that he was joining them. He spoke about his work ethic, first in, last out. When one staff member later remarked, ‘Haven’t seen you in a while’, it did not go down well. But, by then, many had given up on having a relationship with Mitchell. Some felt he never knew their names. There was, it is said, a lot of ‘big man’ and ‘mate’. He probably could have got away with that, if his relationship with the one colleague who really mattered was better. Mitchell and Howe did not get on. So much so, insiders feared the head coach could be forced to walk away after his work, and that of others, was clumsily picked apart by this brash outsider. And this was long before the sporting director went public with what he had been saying in private. We understand he made no secret of his belief that the club overpaid for Lewis Hall and Tino Livramento, two players who would win England caps before the season was out. Instead of embracing Howe’s strengths, it was as if Mitchell felt intimidated by them, like the supply teacher who realises the smart kid could take the lesson. It is claimed he would often use the phrase ‘I don’t care who I upset’. He should have done. It showed a lack of self-awareness that would prove his undoing. Never was that more apparent than in the Sir Bobby Robson suite inside St James’ on September 4. There, during a 90-minute briefing with journalists, he said that the club’s transfer strategy was ‘not fit for purpose’. He said it several times. As one source said: ‘It went down like the Titanic. Talk about aggravating the staff you’re supposed to be leading.’ In his defence, some of what he said that day made sense. He was right to say the club had to operate smarter when it came to recruitment in a PSR world. In fact, some walked away believing him to be a visionary. But tunnel vision was Mitchell’s problem. It was his way or the highway and he did not have the smarts to look in his rear-view mirror and realise that the bumpy road travelled by others had been negotiated with skill, feeling and care. Indeed, his words that afternoon were careless. For the best part of a fortnight after, he and Howe did not speak. Belatedly, there was a peacemaking envoy by chief executive Darren Eales, who appointed Mitchell without Howe’s prior knowledge having worked with him at Tottenham. By this point, those close to him say, Howe had resolved to win. Not to win the civil war that had needlessly been allowed to develop, but to concentrate on winning football matches. On winning a trophy. On winning qualification to the Champions League. He did all of that. There was whispered suspicion among some insiders that, during the early weeks of the season, defeats were strengthening Mitchell’s position. What does that say for the harmony of the club? As one source said: ‘The training ground culture changed during that time. Everyone was on eggshells. There did not need to be this friction. It was baffling what the club did by creating that situation.’ To think, Newcastle risked losing Howe by an act of self-sabotage. Mitchell should never have been appointed. There was no due diligence, bar previous acquaintance. When the new transfer chief promised he would deliver the signing of Marc Guehi and failed, he offered up a book of alternatives akin to second-class stamps. ‘Bad players, good money,’ said one source. In January, Mitchell did negotiate a couple of decent sales. But, again, there were no incomings. Howe’s hand was weakened, but he and his players came back stronger. Between December 14 and April 16 there were 19 wins from 24 games, including the Carabao Cup final. One image from the victory parade, carried in giant form in the Mail on Sunday, shows a beaming Howe waving to the crowd aboard the open-top bus. Next to him, Mitchell looks like he’s dropped a pound and found a penny. Club sources say he has been considering his future for a while. When Howe then delivered on the £100million-plus transfer kitty that comes with the Champions League, perhaps it was only right that he would oversee its investment. He has shown his approach to be fit for purpose, after all. There was no real surprise when learning that Mitchell would be leaving this week – the club say it was a mutual decision – but there was more surprise at the timing, on the eve of the summer window. Then again, it’s better for all parties to admit a mistake now than to go shopping for a king size bed when you are sleeping in separate rooms. All of this is not to say Mitchell will not and cannot be a very good sporting director elsewhere. He clearly has ideas and self-belief. But if he learns one lesson from his brief time at Newcastle, it should be that a little humility can go a long way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted Wednesday at 17:01 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:01 Would have loved to have gotten Tino and Hall for less like. But that goes for every player really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted Wednesday at 17:02 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:02 1 minute ago, KaKa said: Yeah, maybe a bit strong perhaps. But definitely seemed he was uncomfortable with the whole Mehrad, Amanda and Howe dynamic. Wasn't there talk he reported back to PIF about it which led to the change, with the Mitchell hiring then coming after? Yep, I'm biting my tongue, but there's definitely room for an interpretation of events where he's a snake who has spent a decent amount of time nearly ruining a lot of good at the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted Wednesday at 17:02 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:02 As if Tino or Hall were poor business, they were both absolutely incredible business Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted Wednesday at 17:05 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:05 (edited) There’s definitely some truth in the article, no doubt. Should also take it with a slight pinch of salt. Edited Wednesday at 17:06 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoob Posted Wednesday at 17:05 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:05 2 minutes ago, gbandit said: As if Tino or Hall were poor business, they were both absolutely incredible business Especially when he apparently tried his best to spend £70m on Guehi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted Wednesday at 17:06 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:06 Just now, TheHoob said: Especially when he apparently tried his best to spend £70m on Guehi This isn’t true though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted Wednesday at 17:07 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:07 4 minutes ago, gbandit said: As if Tino or Hall were poor business, they were both absolutely incredible business Put it this way, if we sign another first teamer for 30 million this summer it will be regarded as great business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted Wednesday at 17:08 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:08 2 minutes ago, Ikon said: There’s definitely some truth in the article, no doubt. Should also take it with a slight pinch of salt. Probably, but considering not one journalist had a clue about it, I find it hard to believe they now have the inside scoop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallumG6 Posted Wednesday at 17:08 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:08 Next SD hire (if there is one) needs to be on the fucking money. Twice now we’ve been stung by poor hires. Incoming individual needs to accept that he’s going to work in tandem with the manager, simple as that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted Wednesday at 17:09 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:09 2 minutes ago, TheHoob said: Especially when he apparently tried his best to spend £70m on Guehi That was Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted Wednesday at 17:10 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:10 Just now, SUPERTOON said: Probably, but considering not one journalist had a clue about it, I find it hard to believe they now have the inside scoop. I agree. I think they might have found something out. But if they’ve spun the story quite a bit it wouldn’t surprise me none whatsoever. Therefore “pinch of salt” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted Wednesday at 17:11 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:11 (edited) 30 minutes ago, KaKa said: If it's really as bad as that article states, probably shouldn't keep him around till the end of June?! This whole situation is so weird and confusing. Hopefully not impact the Summer as Eddie has already lined up his targets and Mitchells basically been a passenger Clearly been a power struggle with Staveley the first casualty - am sure Eddie wasn't happy her going. Edited Wednesday at 17:13 by duo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoob Posted Wednesday at 17:13 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:13 3 minutes ago, nemtizz said: That was Howe. Not according to that article at least, unless I'm missing something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted Wednesday at 17:13 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:13 So we believe Craig Hope now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted Wednesday at 17:13 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:13 (edited) Perhaps, at the time, it might have seemed like we overpaid for Livramento and Hall - but they're both absolute fucking steals due to Eddie and Co's coaching. Edited Wednesday at 17:14 by ads Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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