Kid Icarus Posted September 22, 2024 Share Posted September 22, 2024 27 minutes ago, Froggy said: There's absolutely no doubting the job Howe has done with the control he has had at both Bournemouth and yourselves, but the stature of the clubs at the time allowed it IMO. Newcastle could become a huge club globally. Man City have done it in a relatively short period of time. You can't have the manager dictating everything at a huge club. I'm not sure there's ever been a case of it being successful. Even Ferguson for us didn't have huge control over transfers and all decisions were made with him and Edwards/Kenyon/Gill. I have to say though I'm fairly surprised it doesn't seem to be working with Howe and Mitchell, as on paper it seems a good match. I don't think it's a case of dictating or suggesting that, it's that he's already established our identity. He didn’t do it as a dictator, he did it alongside Nixon and with the support of Staveley and Ghodoussi and probably Tindall and his coaching staff. He has the CV as a DoF and the success as a coach to make throwing the baby out with the bath water a suicidal decision imo. The identity part for Newcastle should already have a line drawn under it AFAIC, it's done. Every Pep team is built in his identity, likewise Klopp and there's always the expectation that they can't succeed unless they get x, y, and z. I'd expect the same will apply with ETH, despite having Ashworth in place. And when they don't have the tools yet (Pep 16/17, Klopp 15/16, 16/17, 17/18) they don't succeed. People might scoff at drawing that comparison but you have to do the same with Howe, he's more than proved his worth, and we'd be absolutely crazy to undermine and potentially lose him so Mitchell - someone whose greatest achievement as a DoF is building the Spurs side that came 3rd the year Leicester won the league - can bring in some Poch regen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted September 22, 2024 Share Posted September 22, 2024 7 hours ago, Froggy said: There's absolutely no doubting the job Howe has done with the control he has had at both Bournemouth and yourselves, but the stature of the clubs at the time allowed it IMO. Newcastle could become a huge club globally. Man City have done it in a relatively short period of time. You can't have the manager dictating everything at a huge club. I'm not sure there's ever been a case of it being successful. Even Ferguson for us didn't have huge control over transfers and all decisions were made with him and Edwards/Kenyon/Gill. I have to say though I'm fairly surprised it doesn't seem to be working with Howe and Mitchell, as on paper it seems a good match. Fucking hell I've agreed with just about everything you have said today in this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted September 22, 2024 Share Posted September 22, 2024 This is going to run and run innit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted September 22, 2024 Share Posted September 22, 2024 6 minutes ago, Rich said: This is going to run and run innit? When one of them is lying it is absolutely is yeah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 22, 2024 Share Posted September 22, 2024 Maybe the thing that's existed at any sort of professional scale for about five minutes needs a bit more strategic input than the men's first team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted September 22, 2024 Share Posted September 22, 2024 3 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Maybe the thing that's existed at any sort of professional scale for about five minutes needs a bit more strategic input than the men's first team. Nah Yorkie, IF they haven’t spoken for weeks and he speaks to Langley daily something is obviously wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted September 22, 2024 Share Posted September 22, 2024 40 minutes ago, et tu brute said: Fucking hell I've agreed with just about everything you have said today in this thread. I've told you before. It might take one year, it make take five years, but I'll win you over eventually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 22, 2024 Share Posted September 22, 2024 44 minutes ago, Rich said: This is going to run and run innit? Becky to replace Eddie by Christmas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted September 22, 2024 Share Posted September 22, 2024 12 minutes ago, Froggy said: I've told you before. It might take one year, it make take five years, but I'll win you over eventually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted September 22, 2024 Share Posted September 22, 2024 43 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Nah Yorkie, IF they haven’t spoken for weeks and he speaks to Langley daily something is obviously wrong. Maybees he fancies her Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted September 22, 2024 Share Posted September 22, 2024 1 hour ago, Rich said: This is going to run and run innit? Until one of them goes, aye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted September 22, 2024 Share Posted September 22, 2024 4 hours ago, Rich said: This is going to run and run innit? I did not see this angle coming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted September 22, 2024 Share Posted September 22, 2024 Aye these Twitter "NUFC" fans like to make a drama out of everything I had a bit of an argument with NUFC Index today and he ended up calling me thick for calling him out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 24, 2024 Share Posted September 24, 2024 Mitchell’s first test Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted September 24, 2024 Share Posted September 24, 2024 Those all make sense, we’d be stupid not to offer them new contracts for slightly different reasons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted September 24, 2024 Share Posted September 24, 2024 2 minutes ago, Jack27 said: Mitchell’s first test ‘Scar’ and Burn is Bailey trying to send a subliminal message? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted September 24, 2024 Share Posted September 24, 2024 12 minutes ago, Jack27 said: Mitchell’s first test Article sounds like pure bait. Without any regard to the merits of extending them, that's been made up to needle the situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 24, 2024 Share Posted September 24, 2024 16 minutes ago, gbandit said: Those all make sense, we’d be stupid not to offer them new contracts for slightly different reasons I would look into selling Burn and Schar this upcoming summer I’d keep Longstaff around for club HG status Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted September 24, 2024 Share Posted September 24, 2024 All three need to be given a contract if we don't want them to leave on a free, so makes total sense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 24, 2024 Share Posted September 24, 2024 24 minutes ago, et tu brute said: All three need to be given a contract if we don't want them to leave on a free, so makes total sense This just made me realise next year it’s 2025 That shit wild Guess I’m selling both in January then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted September 24, 2024 Share Posted September 24, 2024 5 hours ago, Jack27 said: I would look into selling Burn and Schar this upcoming summer I’d keep Longstaff around for club HG status They are both pretty worthless sadly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted September 27, 2024 Share Posted September 27, 2024 From near the end of Eddie's press conference: Edwards: How refreshing is it to have a press conference and no\t be asked about your relationship with Paul Mitchell? Eddie: (laughing) Well you've just ruined that Luke, so thank you. But everything's good, thanks for asking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted September 27, 2024 Share Posted September 27, 2024 57 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: From near the end of Eddie's press conference: Edwards: How refreshing is it to have a press conference and no\t be asked about your relationship with Paul Mitchell? Eddie: (laughing) Well you've just ruined that Luke, so thank you. But everything's good, thanks for asking. Yeah fuck you Luke, ya nipple heed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted September 27, 2024 Share Posted September 27, 2024 Got this feeling that Luke thinks eddie and himself are best buddies. Anyone else get that feeling from the desperate bugger? 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 27, 2024 Share Posted September 27, 2024 On 25/09/2024 at 00:42, r0cafella said: They are both pretty worthless sadly. More that they are worth more to us than other teams. Schar could be here for years imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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