TRon Posted Saturday at 17:43 Share Posted Saturday at 17:43 7 minutes ago, Roha said: I feel Isak will go in the summer and probably with Bruno - Then the rebuilt starts. Not sure about Bruno but Isak is starting to feel inevitable. Europe is looking a long way off now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roha Posted Saturday at 17:44 Share Posted Saturday at 17:44 Just now, TRon said: Not sure about Bruno but Isak is starting to feel inevitable. Europe is looking a long way off now. I cant blame him either. He is 25 - he is an amazing attacking player. And honestly if we can get 120 for him, it will be worth it to do our rebuild. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted Monday at 11:17 Share Posted Monday at 11:17 Decent article. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted Monday at 11:22 Share Posted Monday at 11:22 ‘Not more moans about PSR’ PSR and revenues is the defining issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted Monday at 11:53 Share Posted Monday at 11:53 Isak will be off. It's what we do with the money that is crucial and will define the next few years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted Monday at 23:44 Share Posted Monday at 23:44 12 hours ago, Scoot said: Decent article. I wish we'd followed Forrests example, spent what we wanted, take the points hit and move on. Wouldn't have made a difference last season and started this with a stronger squad. Working well for Forrest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted Tuesday at 01:28 Share Posted Tuesday at 01:28 On 07/12/2024 at 17:43, TRon said: Not sure about Bruno but Isak is starting to feel inevitable. Europe is looking a long way off now. I get the pessimism. But there's still 23 games still to play this season, were still 4 games away from being half way through the season and 5 points off European places. Yes it's not looking great currently, but I'm not ready to write the season off yet just because we've had an inconsistent first 15 games. Who's to say with a bit of luck with injuries, perhaps some movement in the January window we couldn't go on a good run of results and rapidly climb the table. Apart from Liverpool and now Possibly Chelsea, no other team is putting consistent runs together and we've seen how tight the table is and how quickly things could turn around. I bet very few would have thought we'd finish in the top 7 around January or whenever last year when we were on a bad run. I've seen us have strong 2nd halves of seasons in the past and make late runs for European positions. Glen Roeder in 05/06 brings a wry smile when I think about it and the doom and gloom of the Souness era that preceded it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted Tuesday at 05:44 Share Posted Tuesday at 05:44 4 hours ago, alexf said: I get the pessimism. But there's still 23 games still to play this season, were still 4 games away from being half way through the season and 5 points off European places. Yes it's not looking great currently, but I'm not ready to write the season off yet just because we've had an inconsistent first 15 games. Who's to say with a bit of luck with injuries, perhaps some movement in the January window we couldn't go on a good run of results and rapidly climb the table. Apart from Liverpool and now Possibly Chelsea, no other team is putting consistent runs together and we've seen how tight the table is and how quickly things could turn around. I bet very few would have thought we'd finish in the top 7 around January or whenever last year when we were on a bad run. I've seen us have strong 2nd halves of seasons in the past and make late runs for European positions. Glen Roeder in 05/06 brings a wry smile when I think about it and the doom and gloom of the Souness era that preceded it. Here here, I think a few new faces in January could transform our season, Eddie has 5 games between now and then unfortunately if he doesn't do well in those I don't think he'll be here by the time the window opens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted Tuesday at 06:45 Share Posted Tuesday at 06:45 18 hours ago, OverThere said: Isak will be off. It's what we do with the money that is crucial and will define the next few years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted Tuesday at 10:20 Share Posted Tuesday at 10:20 4 hours ago, Ben said: Here here, I think a few new faces in January could transform our season, Eddie has 5 games between now and then unfortunately if he doesn't do well in those I don't think he'll be here by the time the window opens. I can't see us binning him if we beat Brentford next week but then again Spurs sacked Mourinho just before a final never mind semi finals! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted Tuesday at 10:33 Share Posted Tuesday at 10:33 10 hours ago, duo said: I wish we'd followed Forrests example, spent what we wanted, take the points hit and move on. Wouldn't have made a difference last season and started this with a stronger squad. Working well for Forrest. They didn’t really ‘spend what they wanted’ though. They complied with FFP, just not in time for the deadline, due to them selling Brennan Johnson a month or so later to get a better price for him. It would have been like us hanging on to Minteh for a bit longer, then getting £40m instead of £30m for him. Which in the grand scheme of things, would hardly have been worth a points deduction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted Tuesday at 12:35 Share Posted Tuesday at 12:35 2 hours ago, Paully said: I can't see us binning him if we beat Brentford next week but then again Spurs sacked Mourinho just before a final never mind semi finals! I'm a massive Howe fan but if we are out of the cup and lose those other fixtures Mitchell might be ringing his mate Poch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmot Posted Tuesday at 12:42 Share Posted Tuesday at 12:42 On 07/12/2024 at 17:44, Roha said: I cant blame him either. He is 25 - he is an amazing attacking player. And honestly if we can get 120 for him, it will be worth it to do our rebuild. With whom exactly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted Tuesday at 13:34 Share Posted Tuesday at 13:34 12 hours ago, alexf said: I get the pessimism. But there's still 23 games still to play this season, were still 4 games away from being half way through the season and 5 points off European places. Yes it's not looking great currently, but I'm not ready to write the season off yet just because we've had an inconsistent first 15 games. Who's to say with a bit of luck with injuries, perhaps some movement in the January window we couldn't go on a good run of results and rapidly climb the table. Apart from Liverpool and now Possibly Chelsea, no other team is putting consistent runs together and we've seen how tight the table is and how quickly things could turn around. I bet very few would have thought we'd finish in the top 7 around January or whenever last year when we were on a bad run. I've seen us have strong 2nd halves of seasons in the past and make late runs for European positions. Glen Roeder in 05/06 brings a wry smile when I think about it and the doom and gloom of the Souness era that preceded it. I agree with teams beating each other, in theory it wouldn't take that much to put us right back in there. What puts doubt in my mind is we have looked disjointed all season, and because we've dropped a lot of points to substandard teams, those will be harder to make up in the second half of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted Tuesday at 15:28 Share Posted Tuesday at 15:28 1 hour ago, TRon said: I agree with teams beating each other, in theory it wouldn't take that much to put us right back in there. What puts doubt in my mind is we have looked disjointed all season, and because we've dropped a lot of points to substandard teams, those will be harder to make up in the second half of the season. Isn’t that the case with nearly everyone outside of the current top 4 (and even Man City you could argue) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted Tuesday at 16:10 Share Posted Tuesday at 16:10 41 minutes ago, SteV said: Isn’t that the case with nearly everyone outside of the current top 4 (and even Man City you could argue) Yes, but I can only call it on what we are showing so far this season, and that has us not playing very well and sitting 12th in the table. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted Tuesday at 16:18 Share Posted Tuesday at 16:18 Just now, TRon said: Yes, but I can only call it on what we are showing so far this season, and that has us not playing very well and sitting 12th in the table. Depends how you want to spin it. We’re playing (very) inconsistently, even within matches. Granted, probably veering more towards bad than good considering the season as a whole. But Forest are fifth, who we’re five points behind, and I remain very confident of finishing above them. I’ll accept I’m nearly always glass half-full, whereas others may be glass half-empty, but it really feels difficult to be fully confident either way on which direction the season goes from here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILCAML Posted Tuesday at 16:22 Share Posted Tuesday at 16:22 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ben said: I'm a massive Howe fan but if we are out of the cup and lose those other fixtures Mitchell might be ringing his mate Poch. Poch just signed with team USA, no way: - they'll let him go cheaply - he'd want to leave so soon - Newcastle would be willing to pay what it takes to get him now Also, I'm not that convinced Mitchell will be the one making those decisions, either firing Howe or hiring the next manager. PIF will look to bring in their own man IMO, someone experienced and a bigger name they can sell and show off as an "ambitious hire". They won't sign off on another young-ish unproven manager if they have to fire Howe in the middle of the season which would mean the club is in deep jeopardy of reaching their goals this season IMO. Edited Tuesday at 16:25 by ILCAML Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted Tuesday at 16:32 Share Posted Tuesday at 16:32 On 09/12/2024 at 11:22, The College Dropout said: ‘Not more moans about PSR’ PSR and revenues is the defining issue. If anything there has to be more highlighting of PSR, at no point should we begrudgingly accept something thats solely in place to prevent us progressing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted Tuesday at 17:36 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:36 1 hour ago, ILCAML said: Poch just signed with team USA, no way: - they'll let him go cheaply - he'd want to leave so soon - Newcastle would be willing to pay what it takes to get him now Also, I'm not that convinced Mitchell will be the one making those decisions, either firing Howe or hiring the next manager. PIF will look to bring in their own man IMO, someone experienced and a bigger name they can sell and show off as an "ambitious hire". They won't sign off on another young-ish unproven manager if they have to fire Howe in the middle of the season which would mean the club is in deep jeopardy of reaching their goals this season IMO. I don't think firing Howe at the moment would be a wise move and don't expect it to happen. However, in the event that Howe is let go I would really hope that Mitchell gets a major say in who takes his place as the manager and chief recruiter being on the same page is critical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted Tuesday at 17:38 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:38 1 hour ago, ILCAML said: Poch just signed with team USA, no way: - they'll let him go cheaply - he'd want to leave so soon - Newcastle would be willing to pay what it takes to get him now Also, I'm not that convinced Mitchell will be the one making those decisions, either firing Howe or hiring the next manager. PIF will look to bring in their own man IMO, someone experienced and a bigger name they can sell and show off as an "ambitious hire". They won't sign off on another young-ish unproven manager if they have to fire Howe in the middle of the season which would mean the club is in deep jeopardy of reaching their goals this season IMO. We can do better than Poch. We're possibly the most attractive job in the biggest league in the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted Tuesday at 18:36 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:36 Can people stop mentioning poch? he just took the USA job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted Tuesday at 19:37 Share Posted Tuesday at 19:37 Adi Hutters name keeps popping up. Obviously lazy journalist links because Mitchell took him to Monaco. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted Tuesday at 20:54 Share Posted Tuesday at 20:54 2 hours ago, Kanj said: Can people stop mentioning poch? he just took the USA job. So? Ashworth just took the Man U job and he's available Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILCAML Posted Tuesday at 22:03 Share Posted Tuesday at 22:03 1 hour ago, gjohnson said: So? Ashworth just took the Man U job and he's available Because he got sacked. Unless Poch gets sacked as well that is not happening Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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