huss9 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Osula has been so much better than Elanga in the few minutes he's played for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 11 hours ago, huss9 said: Osula has been so much better than Elanga in the few minutes he's played for us. Agreed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Is it half term or something Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonAbroad Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Eddie said he would be returning to training imminently this morning, so should see him back in a squad in the next couple of weeks. Just in time to prove his fitness before a deadline day medical somewhere... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixx Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Seriously don’t get the hate he gets. For a third choice striker who actually is a bit threatening when he gets the chance and can be useful on the right too? Say we sell him now for 20 million. You think it’s easy to find another striker willing to be third choice who can actually do a job for us? Some of you guys live in Football Manager fantasy land. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Just now, sixx said: Seriously don’t get the hate he gets. For a third choice striker who actually is a bit threatening when he gets the chance and can be useful on the right too? Say we sell him now for 20 million. You think it’s easy to find another striker willing to be third choice who can actually do a job for us? Some of you guys live in Football Manager fantasy land. I don't think it's hate, it's recognising that he's just not very good at this level, even for a third choice striker. If he were a 17 year old you'd have more hope for him, but he's 22. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) 6 minutes ago, sixx said: Seriously don’t get the hate he gets. For a third choice striker who actually is a bit threatening when he gets the chance and can be useful on the right too? Say we sell him now for 20 million. You think it’s easy to find another striker willing to be third choice who can actually do a job for us? Some of you guys live in Football Manager fantasy land. Totally agree, we could've used him over Christmas and New Year for sure. I don't think many teams have top 3rd strikers if they play 1 up front. Given he can also be effective off the wings he could've added a bit of chaos and threat going forward at least. I'm naturally biased towards backing all our players, but I think he was starting to show some good signs. But I guess if Howe doesn't agree then he'll be oot. Edited January 16 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixx Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 3 minutes ago, Shearergol said: I don't think it's hate, it's recognising that he's just not very good at this level, even for a third choice striker. If he were a 17 year old you'd have more hope for him, but he's 22. If we had a 17 year old third choice striker with the output per minute he’s had he’d be one of the world’s biggest prospects in football. Again, Football Manger fantasy land. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 3 minutes ago, sixx said: If we had a 17 year old third choice striker with the output per minute he’s had he’d be one of the world’s biggest prospects in football. Again, Football Manger fantasy land. I'm not really sure what point you're making here. He's got 1 goal and no assists in 210 minutes. What is it about those stats would make him one of the world's biggest prospects? I think watching him play gives a better idea than looking at stats though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 I mean, 210 minutes is almost nothing, there's not going to be any meaningful stats in that time in either direction. I just think he was showing signs of causing problems for defences just before he got injured. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said: I mean, 210 minutes is almost nothing, there's not going to be any meaningful stats in that time in either direction. I just think he was showing signs of causing problems for defences just before he got injured. Well, exactly Which is why I asked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixx Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 30 minutes ago, Shearergol said: I'm not really sure what point you're making here. He's got 1 goal and no assists in 210 minutes. What is it about those stats would make him one of the world's biggest prospects? I think watching him play gives a better idea than looking at stats though. It’s three goals and an assist in 300mins. That’s nothing to sneeze at for a third choice striker. But I don’t want to get into semantics. In my view he’s unfiltered chaos and aggression and an absolute pest for defenders coming on for the last twenty minutes or so. He’s probably not going to be an established top half PL striker but he’s useful nonetheless. Wouldn’t bother me much getting rid. It’s getting someone in his stead where I think people are being wholly unrealistic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 We're counting his goals against a league one team then? Let's be honest, finding a striker is hard whether they're 1st, 2nd or 3rd choice. But that's not a reason for keeping someone if an offer comes in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 I thought he's always looked fairly dangerous. Definitely a good option off the bench to cause a bit of a ruckus. It is still a valuable squad position, it'll be difficult to get 2-3 first teamers in each position anytime soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Personally quite like Osula. Obviously there is a lot of refinement that is needed in his game, but I can’t not love his chaos. he seems a good character too. Likes a laugh, and it seemed to go a bit unnoticed but that goal he scored against Liverpool, is one of the most emotional I’ve ever seen a player after a goal. It’s a shame he’s been injured. Hopefully he isn’t going to be like many of our other players and struggle with injuries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Issue with Osula is he needs games to develop. Not going to get that here because we spent £55m on Wissa and £55m on Elanga, so he has to go. He could kick on, and it be another what if, but unfortunately we've made a rod for our own back there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janpawel Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Would be quite fun to see Osula and Woltemade play together, similar to when we played Bournemouth They're complete opposites as players, reckon they'd be a nightmare to handle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 I quite like Osula as a chaos ball and rotation option when we need to rest one or both main strikers for what it's worth. I think he's shown flashes but is obviously very raw. You can make the case that he needs a development loan spell for game time, but given the insane fixture schedule I'd rather have him in the squad than not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 hour ago, Shearergol said: I don't think it's hate, it's recognising that he's just not very good at this level, even for a third choice striker. If he were a 17 year old you'd have more hope for him, but he's 22. Antoine Semenyo was playing for Bristol City at 22 and had a record of 16 goals in 112 appearances. Most players don't peak until their mid 20s at least, he's shown lots of flashes of having the ability to be a very useful player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 In any case we're stunting any possible development by giving him zero games or appearances. Not even for the u23s (who can't score to save themselves). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 we dont get 3 points at home to fulham without him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Bit bewildered he's being written off by some, he's always looked a bit of a handful and it looked like he was beginning to channel it when he got the pesky injury. I'd keep a hold this season,see if he can contribute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 3 hours ago, sixx said: Seriously don’t get the hate he gets. For a third choice striker who actually is a bit threatening when he gets the chance and can be useful on the right too? Say we sell him now for 20 million. You think it’s easy to find another striker willing to be third choice who can actually do a job for us? Some of you guys live in Football Manager fantasy land. It's all very well to pick his faults - and he has a few - but try finding a replacement for that money. I said the same thing earlier in this thread. The best we can do is maybe sell him at the end of the season and put that money towards a really top class striker for say £80m. But tbh, even at that price you aren't getting the finished article. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Better than Elanga Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPar Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 I think he can be quite chaotic to opposition defenders who don't know what he's gonna do, but that's because he doesn't know what he's gonna do either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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