Marc Guehi

[Thumbheed]

9 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

That's not what stagnating means, it just means standing still. You can be standing still in 7th or 17th and doing so is going to be based on what you and the clubs around you do in the market. We've done nothing, but ultimately the point is that we have players right now that wouldn't want to stagnate in 7th and them leaving would exacerbate our situation unless we reinvested and had a 2nd phase. 

 

Lewis Hall will be getting far more gametime this year round, Lloyd Kelly looks like an extremely tidy deputy for Botman/Burn, Tonali is legitimately like a new signing and we get the additions of his skillset this year, Willock - injury pending - looks like he was showing signs of being a big player for us and will give us depth. Miley has one more year under his belt and Osula looks like a great 3rd option to have should Wilson inevitably breakdown. 

 

All of these things are counter to any argument of things standing still. 

 

[Mazzy]

3 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Mount went for what 70m with a year left? I reckon they get 50m for him next season no worries. 

 

Different situations, much more sought after position for one and the fact he was an England regular unlike Guehi. Mount was 23, Geuhi will be 25. Plus Man Utd pay over the odds for every single player they get.

[Gallowgate Toon]

I genuinely don't believe that Howe would rather spend the next months without anyone else unless it's Guehi - the framing of it is interesting.

 

And even if that was the case for CB, what about RW if we've got money to spend now?

[Kid Icarus]

1 minute ago, Thumbheed said:

 

Lewis Hall will be getting far more gametime this year round, Lloyd Kelly looks like an extremely tidy deputy for Botman/Burn, Tonali is legitimately like a new signing and we get the additions of his skillset this year, Willock - injury pending - looks like he was showing signs of being a big player for us and will give us depth. Miley has one more year under his belt and Osula looks like a great 3rd option to have should Wilson inevitably breakdown. 

 

All of these things are counter to any argument of things standing still. 

 

I would argue that you're making my point for me tbh, but each to their own. 

[Erikse]

13 minutes ago, 54 said:

I feel like as i'm getting older I just can't be arsed with negativity anymore, like objectively it'll be a poor window if we don't sign anyone, there is no disputing it, and a couple of years ago i'd probably be upset, but right now, I really just don't have the energy in me to care that much about it. Like realistically we still have owners who want us to improve, the club will still be here in 5 years, with a likely new set of players, and the world will keep on spinning, with this transfer window having been forgotten. So i'm just sat here reading all the angry posts being very "Meh, whatever, these things happen".

 

Is it just me like that?

 

I agree myself, I won't let it annoy me too much yet. It all depends on the season. But I also don't like the whole going out of your way to defend something that clearly has been a bad performance.

 

We don't make high bids for Guehi if we don't have money to spend, and even if we were bidding with money that we didn't really have to spend, we could've used that same money that we actually used for our bids into bidding on other alternatives anyways. We don't need evidence or 100% confirmed inside info to acknowledge this, it's just common sense. The whole "we don't know what's going on" argument is automatically being used whenever something doesn't go well, regardsless of what info we have available.

 

 

Edited August 29, 2024 by Erikse

[TRC]

6 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said:

 

 

Yeah, I guess everyone heals at different speeds.  But I thought it was always sort of 7 months as a minimum.  But not back to anywhere near 100%, minutes managed etc.  But normally more like 9-12 months.  

Yeah ACLs are dodgy, it used to be a year out minimum, then it was 6 to 7 months, but all the guys that did it last year have been out ages. Timber was a year, Beundia, Mings etc.

[vic]

Wolfsburg centre-back Maxence Lacroix is set to sign for Crystal Palace in a deal worth up to £18m, subject to him passing a medical.

When this goes through we'll sign Gueiy.

[LionOfGosforth]

[AyeDubbleYoo]

11 minutes ago, 54 said:

I feel like as i'm getting older I just can't be arsed with negativity anymore, like objectively it'll be a poor window if we don't sign anyone, there is no disputing it, and a couple of years ago i'd probably be upset, but right now, I really just don't have the energy in me to care that much about it. Like realistically we still have owners who want us to improve, the club will still be here in 5 years, with a likely new set of players, and the world will keep on spinning, with this transfer window having been forgotten. So i'm just sat here reading all the angry posts being very "Meh, whatever, these things happen".

 

Is it just me like that?

 

Absolutely agree. The point is whether we want to progress, not if we ever make a mistake. 

 

I expect us to have a significantly better season than last year. Sure, it won't be because of transfer activity (and it could have been better) but I still expect it to be in the top 3 seasons for the last 15+ years. 

 

Hopefully once the new regime is bedded in we'll see much smarter transfer dealing again. 

 

 

Edited August 29, 2024 by AyeDubbleYoo

[Vaj]

Christ, I would take Disasi now...desperate times!

[Miggys First Goal]

Wonder if Mitchell has offered alternatives to Eddie, but Eddie has dug his heels in and knocked back those suggestions. 
 

Not sure how that’s going to work in the future, like. Could be seeing some butting of heads in future transfer windows between the two.

 

I know they’ve apparently talked things out when they returned from Germany, but I’m still not sure everything is as rosy as they’re making it out to be. 

[gdm]

Genuinely don’t understand wasting so much time on this and having no other options 

[Pixelphish]

12 minutes ago, 54 said:

I feel like as i'm getting older I just can't be arsed with negativity anymore, like objectively it'll be a poor window if we don't sign anyone, there is no disputing it, and a couple of years ago i'd probably be upset, but right now, I really just don't have the energy in me to care that much about it. Like realistically we still have owners who want us to improve, the club will still be here in 5 years, with a likely new set of players, and the world will keep on spinning, with this transfer window having been forgotten. So i'm just sat here reading all the angry posts being very "Meh, whatever, these things happen".

 

Is it just me like that?

 

I think the state of football in general contributes a lot to this apathy as well, at least for me. Every quarter there seems to be some new hairbrained rule to maintain the status quo as much as possible.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

1 minute ago, Vaj said:

Christ, I would take Disasi now...desperate times!

 

I don't think he's a bad player from what I've seen for Chelsea, neither is Chalobah. Not in the "position sorted for a decade" bracket though maybe. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

1 minute ago, gdm said:

Genuinely don’t understand wasting so much time on this and having no other options 

 

I mean, it depends doesn't it? We might have thought it was going to happen. 

[Thumbheed]

12 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

I would argue that you're making my point for me tbh, but each to their own. 

How so?

[Andy]

We've seen before that a lack of activity causes, or at least contributes to, stagnation. Bowyer window, Anita window, as obvious examples.  

 

It's not even just stagnation that is a problem, we have some glaring weaknesses in our squad that need improving. Schar and Trippier aren't getting any younger. Krafth, Longstaff, Murphy and Almiron don't start for any other team in the top 10 but are in a position where they're getting (or are likely to get) significant game time. 

 

If we don't pull something out the bag in the next 30 odd hours, the club will be taking a huge gamble. Failure to secure Europe this season will almost certainly see the likes of Bruno, Isak and Gordon wanting to look elsewhere. This isn't negativity, it's just the reality of the situation. 

 

If (IF) we have put all our eggs in the Guehi basket, we have taken a big risk.

[Shadow Puppets]

15 minutes ago, 54 said:

I feel like as i'm getting older I just can't be arsed with negativity anymore, like objectively it'll be a poor window if we don't sign anyone, there is no disputing it, and a couple of years ago i'd probably be upset, but right now, I really just don't have the energy in me to care that much about it. Like realistically we still have owners who want us to improve, the club will still be here in 5 years, with a likely new set of players, and the world will keep on spinning, with this transfer window having been forgotten. So i'm just sat here reading all the angry posts being very "Meh, whatever, these things happen".

 

Is it just me like that?

No, I completely agree with you. I’ll be disappointed if we don’t sign anyone else, sure, but angry… no. It’s not really worthy of that.

[madras]

10 minutes ago, Mazzy said:

 

If we miss any opportunity to improve as a squad, we will only find ourselves further behind everyone else. We have been playing catch up for 3 years, we can't afford to slip further behind by once again not making the necessary improvements to the team. 

 

Saying "oh we'll sign someone next window" is not a good enough reason/excuse. This was that next window, this was meant to be the transformative window where we'd go that step further. Maybe it still will be, there is time of course, but it doesn't look that way currently.

You can only look back and wonder. Would you rather we hadn't got Botman and we'd went for Badiashile because that January because Lille wouldn't accept our offer? It's a long game and I'm prepared to see how it plays out. Has their other CHs injury killed it ? Who knows ? We've kept our purples, we know we ha e money there to improve and I'd rather get the right one later than a make weight now. 

[Lush Vlad]

16 minutes ago, 54 said:

I feel like as i'm getting older I just can't be arsed with negativity anymore, like objectively it'll be a poor window if we don't sign anyone, there is no disputing it, and a couple of years ago i'd probably be upset, but right now, I really just don't have the energy in me to care that much about it. Like realistically we still have owners who want us to improve, the club will still be here in 5 years, with a likely new set of players, and the world will keep on spinning, with this transfer window having been forgotten. So i'm just sat here reading all the angry posts being very "Meh, whatever, these things happen".

 

Is it just me like that?

 

Great way of looking at it.  I think as I get older, I don't get quite so up and down about it all.  

 

If we don't get anyone else in.  It will have been a 2/10 window, really.  It's annoying and a bit shit.  But I'll just move onto enjoying my weekend and hopefully watching a good performance on Sunday. 

[madras]

19 minutes ago, 54 said:

I feel like as i'm getting older I just can't be arsed with negativity anymore, like objectively it'll be a poor window if we don't sign anyone, there is no disputing it, and a couple of years ago i'd probably be upset, but right now, I really just don't have the energy in me to care that much about it. Like realistically we still have owners who want us to improve, the club will still be here in 5 years, with a likely new set of players, and the world will keep on spinning, with this transfer window having been forgotten. So i'm just sat here reading all the angry posts being very "Meh, whatever, these things happen".

 

Is it just me like that?

Nope, not just you.

[Kid Icarus]

Just now, Thumbheed said:

How so?

 

In a team trying to raise the ceiling of quality up to the level of Isak, Bruno, Tonali, Gordon, Tripper etc, do you think the things you've listed come anywhere close to doing that when we're still regularly playing Burn, Longstaff, Almiron, Murphy? All of them are great professionals and can do a job, but we should be moving down the pecking order and being replaced with high quality players if we want to progress. Tonali (a player we bought last summer) for Longstaff is the only one on the cards at the moment. We still have no replacement for Schar, no Pope back up, no starting RW, Wilson is still here and crocked. If we'd taken care of any of these things in this window it would be fine, but we've done nothing.  

[STM]

5 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

No, I completely agree with you. I’ll be disappointed if we don’t sign anyone else, sure, but angry… no. It’s not really worthy of that.

 My guy. 

[Keegans Export]

17 minutes ago, 54 said:

I feel like as i'm getting older I just can't be arsed with negativity anymore, like objectively it'll be a poor window if we don't sign anyone, there is no disputing it, and a couple of years ago i'd probably be upset, but right now, I really just don't have the energy in me to care that much about it. Like realistically we still have owners who want us to improve, the club will still be here in 5 years, with a likely new set of players, and the world will keep on spinning, with this transfer window having been forgotten. So i'm just sat here reading all the angry posts being very "Meh, whatever, these things happen".

 

Is it just me like that?

Well I'm only in my 30s so I'm not going to say it's anything to do with getting older (!) but I don't get annoyed about things anywhere near as much as I used to, especially not transfers (or lack of). Obviously I'd rather we make a couple of quality additions but I'm still going to get to watch Bruno, Tonali, Isak, Gordon etc play for NUFC. I see us win more than we lose. We might actually, finally, have a chance to win something, or at least attempt to make an effort in the cups. As far as I see it, I'm well up on where I was as a fan in 2019/20, anything more than what we have now is just a bonus.

 

I'm certainly not saying those who are pissed off with how this window has played out aren't intitled to react however they like, but it's not how I see things. The 20-year-old me would have been writing to the club offering to fill in as DOF!

[gdm]

5 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

I mean, it depends doesn't it? We might have thought it was going to happen. 

Anything could happen tho. He could have got injured in any of the 3 games he’s played in or he could have failed his medical or as has happened Palace continue to ask for too much.  Putting all eggs in this basket for nearly 4 weeks and not have any alternative targets is mental. Can’t find any excuse for it really